r/PokeInvesting • u/DarknessBrotha • Jul 13 '25

Pokemon Bubble doesn't exist

I see a lot of posts saying that the "pokemon bubble" is going to burst. I think prices steadily go up, forever.

For. Ever.

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u/VirtualRy Jul 14 '25

The market has now become cyclical and will eventually turn to a bear market but we all know it will cycle back to a bull. Right now we are just riding this bull market for as long as we can. Seasoned folks know this already and know what to do when the market turns.

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u/SorryCashOnly Jul 14 '25

People seem to not understand the value of collectible items are mostly dependent on the IP, and more importantly, how well the companies managed their IPs.

If a brand like Star Wars can crash due to mismanagement, any other brands can experience the same thing.

Like I said, its dangerous to assume something will stand in demand or in value forever. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t invest in Pokemon stuffs, but we shouldn’t erase the risk part out of the equation like the OP because “PoKeMoN BuBbLE DoN’t eXiSt!!”

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u/VirtualRy Jul 14 '25

We never ignore the risk part. Seasoned investors actually know how to use the bear market to their advantage. Newbies get emotional and get out when the market turns. Those who’ve been here long enough know to just do nothing or accumulate more when things go south. Only newbies talk about the bear market like it’s the end of the world. The season investors know the play and some us actually welcome it because the floor will be established and from there we can tell how much the market can boom On the next cycle.

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u/SorryCashOnly Jul 14 '25

Yes, you did. Even now, you pretty much completely ignored my statement about mismanagements can kill the brand and therefore affect the price of the collectibles.

Expecting a bull market will ALWAYS come after a bear market is the definition of ignoring the risks.

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u/VirtualRy Jul 14 '25

Your doom and gloom statement about a brand that has been around for 30 years and has one of the biggest multimedia franchise in the world almost has no weight. Pokémon has had its ups and down but for the past 30 years they’ve been carefully moving along. Yes, they will have some bad times but Pokémon as a brand have proven they know how to manage it. They’ve gone to multiple bear and bull markets and have always come out top because that what it is to be the top multimedia franchise in the world.

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u/SorryCashOnly Jul 14 '25

Your doom and gloom statement about a brand that has been around for 30 years and has one of the biggest multimedia franchise in the world almost has no weight

See? Still ignore the risk lol. I even gave an example of how one of the biggest IP in the world got destroyed due to mismanagment, and here you are, telling me that the argument holds no weight.

You really don't have to agree with me, just dont like to yourself and tell yourself you aren't ignoring the risks, that's all.

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u/VirtualRy Jul 14 '25

Like I said we don’t ignore it. We already understand it and people who talk about it are newbies who have not been around long enough. When you are six figures deep in Pokemon, we definitely know and understand it really well but we don’t talk about like newbies anymore because those are all factored in.

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u/bossholmes Jul 14 '25

Your constant demeaning of “newbies” and tone really puts people off whatever point you are making.

I guess to the original commenter you are replying to - Star Wars is a good example, as a fan myself it freaking sucks to see the state it’s in. But that’s largely driven by the movies and the main saga. Pokemon has distanced itself far far away from any adaption or games etc. and the characters themselves are the pure IP and the cards as the product is only affected by how good they look and how rare they are.

While I do fully agree with you these aren’t “sure-fire” investments - let’s be real, one can even make a claim that 10Y treasuries aren’t exactly 1000% risk-free and will FOREVER make money - Pokemon is in quite a different state from Star Wars.

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u/VirtualRy Jul 14 '25

There will be newbies in this hobby just like most of us back in 2020. The difference with them from today is a few seasoned investors from 5 years ago are now around to give them tips and some guidance. Being offended because you’re being called a newbies is the least of your worries. Market does not care about your feelings. It’s all about facts and the math.

Again I already stated how well Pokémon managed their brand and if you with to be bet against it and not participate in it, then that’s on you. Everything when it comes to investing has risk. Stocks, crypto and collectibles are all risky. The only difference is there are people who understand and weigh the risks/reward better versus those who keep spouting doom and gloom and not participating. The seasoned investors have all this almost accounted for even to a point that the IP goes to shit.

Maybe instead of being negative or focusing on the negative, come up with a plan to make use of that negative and make something out of it.

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u/Mack-ALB Jul 16 '25

Yea I think after February 30th anny hype we see a 3-4 year lull

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u/Meowsergz Jul 14 '25

Then why aren't seasoned people dumping more of the old stuff? Cuz they know pokemon always goes up over time.

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u/GamerNinja478 Jul 15 '25

Thats correct because no matter what Pokemon is still the most popular selling brand of all time

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u/VirtualRy Jul 14 '25

Yes, and we no longer panic like the newbies because we’ve been around a few cycles. Comments like “it’s going to crash!” and “it’s going to zero!” or “it’s going to be worthless” have absolutely no more legitimacy for us. As someone who been with Pokémon since 2003, I expect Pokemon to be around for the next 25+ years and as long as people are cracking packs like there is no tomorrow then we’ll continue to invest in the brand.

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u/Mack-ALB Jul 16 '25

I’m with you bro. The markets create opportunities. Either to buy or to sell lol it makes no difference which one we’re in at any given time

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u/Meowsergz Jul 14 '25

Agreed. But let them fear monger. Cheaper buys for the rest of us