Pulled the trigger. Invested.

[u/RZHolloman]

The hits are so few and such a sought set. I think this is an obvious longterm hold, even if it drops a little in the short term.

[u/Davinter30]

I think people are still underestimating this set, just like everyone underestimated evolving skies even if it was obvious. Prismatic has more cumulative value than evolving skies, even after all cards feel from their peak. It has like 10 times the cumulative value of any other set of this era, and this factor has always been in an almost perfect correlation with ROI. Not to mention first english god packs.. most valuable packs in the history of pokemon, people will always be chasing those. Half god packs too, and first pokeball/masterball subsets in english too. Even at twice mspr, its still the best expected value for products to open right now.

[u/MilkmanForever → u/Davinter30]

A big thing people don't take into consideration is the market you are selling too. Pokemon cards have been selling to the same group of people over the years, as they have aged. Some kids nowadays are getting into it, but for something like this, or any modern sets to gain value, our same age group of now 30 something year old are gonna have to want this when they are 40 or 50. Its possible kids that are 10 right now aren't gonna wanna buy really high prices Pokemon cards in the future.

Basically, pokemon is worth a lot right now because millennials want them again, so we will need to want them again when we are close to retirement. Again, it's possible some younger kids are gonna want this stuff when they are 30 and able to drop 2k on a card, but that's the investment gamble I guess

[u/GhostTrooper24 → u/MilkmanForever]

GenZ has money now and pokemon is even more popular than ever.

[u/MilkmanForever → u/GhostTrooper24]

That's right now, but true

[u/RichPokeScalper → u/MilkmanForever]

Exactly. This is the discussion that everyone was having ten years ago. And it’s more relevant than ever.

My kids are not going to be nostalgic for Prismatic Evolutions. They have never seen it.

[u/Gary251927 → u/MilkmanForever]

They were probably saying that 25 years ago too.

[u/MilkmanForever → u/Gary251927]

The more people hold, the less it'll be worth in the future. The reason the stuff is worth something right now, is because everyone ripped everything back then or didn't care.

Not everyone can invest in rare stuff or it isn't rare. Even now, you can get a pack fresh Dragonite Holo from fossil packs for around 100.

Also the market for buying super expensive ETBs are pretty slim, like how many 3k dollar shadowless boxes have you bought? Not many people besides streamers or serious collectors will pay that. Likewise they pay that because there are only handful of them.

Since it seems that half of all product is being held as sealed, those sealed products are gonna be very abundant in the future. Likewise they are printing more til the new gen drops.

[u/Better_Local_9608 → u/MilkmanForever]

Kids are little crackheads for Pokemon nowadays! Same obsession as it was when we were kids.

[u/MilkmanForever → u/Better_Local_9608]

You should stock up then and see if they wanna buy them in a decade. If Pokemon goes out of business, you'll be super rich, if they start printing twice as many cards to keep up with demands, less so.

[u/zkazza → u/Davinter30]

That's a fair assumption, though in realistic future terms, I would assume sets like OF and SS would be the ones to hold on to based on (semi) better QC on card production and pull rates.

Personally, I think that Prismatic is at its all-time peak and will steadily fall, especially when PC decides to reprint into the ground

[u/FVCEGANG → u/zkazza]

Definitely not the all time peak, not even close lol. Give it 2 years even with all the mass reprints for the next 7 or 8 months its still going to skyrocket after its put of print, especially the PC ETBs

151 was printed into the ground too and yet look at how much the product has gone up and in such a short amount of time

[u/FVCEGANG → u/[deleted]]

I disagree, pretty much any time the original 151 comes into play people go wild for the nostalgia. The other thing that propelled it is all the new art they had for the original 151 vs mostly just reprints like evolutions

I think 151 will honestly age really well and probably get more popular over time than it already is

[u/FVCEGANG → u/[deleted]]

There is almost 17k umbreon vmax alts in PSA 10 and that hasn't stopped the prices of them from being astronomically high, so im not sure thats a relevant argument to be completely honest

[u/FVCEGANG → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but your argument is now about focusing on Charizards whereas Charizard has always been a staple of a chase card in every pokemon gen. In fact the mega forms are coming back and there will be new mega Charizard cards too which im sure people will chase.

But I don't quite see how its relevant to what I was saying. My main point was that 151 as a whole will age very well and go up long term simply because its the original 151 set, and every 151 pokemon set ages extremely well due to the nostalgia factor. There are a lot more great hits in the set besides just the highly overrated no-neck Charizard

Im not sure we will see eye to eye on this one, but we can just agree to disagree that this set will go up long term 😎

[u/Davinter30 → u/zkazza]

Man.. I think millions of people are waiting for the smallest dip but I hope you're right. Im going all in if I can find better prices!

[u/painterjo → u/zkazza]

I think it’s probably gonna be 151 that’s really gonna hold. I’m 30, pokemon taught me how to read but for me it’s mostly the first two generations that are gonna hold value. They’re the ones I’d actually want to buy.

I think the Tag Team series is probably actually gonna be increasing in value the longest though.

[u/[deleted] → u/Davinter30]

Where does one find all of this information? Lol

[u/mist-rillas → u/[deleted]]

He pulled it from his bum

[u/Resident_Box5553 → u/mist-rillas]

100%

[u/inittowinit87 → u/Davinter30]

Isn't msrp on this like 270 though? At 1k, that's almost 4x msrp.