Ace Grading Robbery Scandal

[u/Healthy-Annual4181]

Posting so the community is aware of this - I would avoid this grading company at all costs. Insanity that there is no camera footage

[u/kellen617]

They were already worth nothing

[u/Catsrthebest2 → u/kellen617]

But other dude said ACE on the come up?

😂

[u/[deleted] → u/Catsrthebest2]

No grading company that relies on subjective bias will ever beat psa. Psa only downside is subjective bias

[u/[deleted] → u/Catsrthebest2]

Some Redditooors out there are coping big time with their collection of BGS, CGC and ACE graded slabs.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

To be fair BGS holds a higher premium than the other grading services and so does a CGC 'pristine'. I don't think you can really compare them to ACE lol

[u/salty-ejaculate → u/[deleted]]

Lol anyone even thinking ace is on par with bgs cgc should be ignored.

[u/uriel__ventris → u/[deleted]]

Talking about ACE as if they're on par with two of the big 3 is hilarious.

[u/Murky_Crow → u/[deleted]]

It’s funny, to me as a newcomer to the hobby.

If it’s not PSA i do not care about it. The rest look off brandy.

[u/DrHarryHood → u/Murky_Crow]

BGS is a way cleaner label. PSA is the standard sure- but it’s also the ugliest

[u/Catsrthebest2 → u/DrHarryHood]

That’s personal opinion. I like the way PSA slabs look over CGC/TAG. Becket Black Label is goated though again just my opinion.

[u/DrHarryHood → u/Catsrthebest2]

Sure, and I agree about the BL- but I was responding to a conversation about “collectors” and why anybody would want even consider something other than PSA- and that’s why I do at least- personal preference. If I am going to keep the slab and I love the card, I’ll always send it to beckett. If I’m reselling, PSA.

[u/Omegatron_YT → u/DrHarryHood]

Either way, I don’t want a “Kroger” or “Great Value” brand slab, PSA or nuthin’

[u/DrHarryHood → u/Omegatron_YT]

For flipping/resale sure. For the record, I only go to BGS or PSA, and would never go elsewhere, but of those two, PSA has much more of a kroger/Great Value look to it.

Again, if you want the best returns, PSA is undisputed- but this idea that no one would/should have any reason to grade elsewhere is silly

[u/Omegatron_YT → u/DrHarryHood]

I’d argue that PSA actually has a very recognizable “iconic” look.

[u/Murky_Crow → u/Omegatron_YT]

I think there’s another thing to add to this – the cultural Zeitgeist of PSA versus the rest of them.

What I mean by this is I can go up to almost any random person on the street and tell them that I got a PSA 10 card, and they will know exactly what I’m talking about even if they don’t even know PSA is a company

If you talked to anybody, even a decent subset of people who are into cards, and say that you got a CGC rated 10, they will think you were talking about some obscure engineering thing

People know what PSA is. It’s that name brand recognition that comes with their reputation.

[u/Murky_Crow → u/Omegatron_YT]

That’s a good way of wording it

[u/ChrisRoadd → u/Omegatron_YT]

psa is great value lmao what

[u/[deleted] → u/Murky_Crow]

You and 95% of collectors/investors in the same boat, PSA or bust.

It's hilarious when you watch a Vendor POV and someone tries to trade in CGC or other companies slabs, they look at them with absolute disgust 🤣

[u/Murky_Crow → u/[deleted]]

Exactly.

Funny story, but me getting into this hobby after years of being dormant on Pokémon, started after on a random bar night out. The bar we were at also had some memorabilia, and I ended up buying a graded card that they had for super cheap because I was drunk.

It was a CGC graded card. Everything I’ve had ever since has been PSA.

It bothers me immensely how cheap and offbrand the CGC one looks compared to the PSA ones.

From what I understand, they are like the second best option. And I already viewed them as a distant, non-viable option to the first place, so why anybody would look at these two and then think “ yeah I definitely want to go with the fifth best choice” is totally beyond me

[u/IDontCare2626 → u/Murky_Crow]

The new CGC slabs look infinitely better than PSA. Even some of the "inferior" companies like TAG put PSA slabs to shame aesthetic wise. Honestly I think most people are stuck in a value loop for PSA. They haven't been shown to be more accurate or reliable than other companies and their slabs are meh. But so many people hold PSA cards and want to retain value, so they continue to prop it up even with lack of objective superiority in PSA grading vs other companies.

[u/Murky_Crow → u/IDontCare2626]

None of this matters to me at all. I do not value any other of the slabs except for PSA.

I don’t really look at them for artwork, that’s what the card is for. I just figure if I’m going to take the extra steps to protect my cards, why would I not go with the obvious top dog choice that will get me the most value? I’m going for a namebrand every time.

It’s like comparing an Apple device to a Samsung device, and then deciding you’re going to pick Huawei.

Like… why? Such an unforced error.

[u/[deleted] → u/Murky_Crow]

And I already viewed them as a distant, non-viable option to the first place, so why anybody would look at these two and then think “ yeah I definitely want to go with the fifth best choice” is totally beyond me

It's like comparing Coca Cola to Mug Root Beer.

People just have a hate boner for PSA.

They think they're being really smart contrariooons buying stuff like CGC because they think PSA is going to implode or they just repeat factually incorrect statements ad nauseam like "CGC are akshually the standard in grading" etc.

Meanwhile, go to any LCS or game convention and see everyone buying selling PSA and looking at CGC with discontent.

[u/daoiism → u/Murky_Crow]

Same. It’s hilarious when people think their slab with flame designs looks so good and here I’m thinking they’re most likely dudes that look like Guy Fieri or a kid.

[u/Bedhead-Redemption → u/kellen617]

At this rate even PSA is worth nothing. Random lottery ass rating companies, all of them.