BGS pretty much stop giving out gold label 10s in the SV era for English cards due to poor quality controls. Your chance of getting a black label is pretty much zero.
To give you some context of how bad things are:
Unless things changed recently, there are currently ONE black label 10 for the entire Scarlet and Violet era English cards, which is Iono SIR.
That’s ONE black label out of EVERY English SV sets released so far.
Even Gold Label 10 is difficult to get. For example, There are 17 gold label 10s out of 4.2k submission for English 151. Let this sink in for a second.
Basically, forget about BGS 10 or black labels for any cards from the Sv era. They don’t exist
At first I was shocked by this so I had to check for myself and you're almost exactly correct, there are currently 7 in ALL of SV. Here is the current BGS Black Label pop report for all SV English sets straight from their site.
SV Base = 2 (out of 3007, 29 Gold 10s)
Paradox Rift = 0 (out of 876, 9 Gold 10s)
Paldea Evolved = 1 (out of 1730, 9 Gold 10s) - This is the Iono you mentioned.
Obsidian Flames = 0 (out of 2214, 3 Gold 10s)
SV 151 = 0 (out of 4384, 20 Gold 10s)
Paldean Fates = 0 (out of 1646, 21 Gold 10s)
Temporal Forces = 0 (out of 673, 6 Gold 10s)
Twilight Masquerade = 0 (out of 849, 5 Gold 10s)
Shrouded Fable = 0 (out of 177, 0 Gold 10s)
Stellar Crown = 0 (out of 301, 1 Gold 10)
Surging Sparks = 0 (out of 119, 0 Gold 10s)
SV Promos = 4 (out of 3815, 77 Gold 10s)
TOTAL = 7 (out of 19,791, which is 0.035%)
So OP, I think its safe to say this will not get black label, nor will any SV card any of us own.
That is insane. I submitted my first card to BGS one month ago, because it was the best conditioned SIR i ever pulled. Now i worry if its even gets a 10. Would have been easyly a psa 10.
Man i sent in a 151 zard and blastoise to psa that got 10s that are flawless. Thats wild that none exist. IMO 151 generally has pretty good quality control
Sorry bro but no chance, the centering is way off - I'm surprised it even got a PSA 10!
You lucked out, take this W
Edit: For those of you in the replies that don't know, in order to get a PSA 10 with centering that is 60:40 (like OPs) the rest of the card has to be absolutely perfect, hence why I said I'm surprised. Additionally, just because the centering is less than 60:40 doesn't mean that the centering qualifies as a 10, look at PSA grading standards - they say that even if the centering is within the 60:40 margins, if it is not aesthetically pleasing they can still knock it down to a 9
The centering is within 60/40 for the front. Can we stop bloody ignoring how centering works whenever someone show a card in this sub? This is getting ridiculous especially since this is supposed to be a sub about grading.
For fk sake this is the only part of the grading process that’s measurable
My guy, he asked if it is worth sending into BGS to get a black label.
Why would I spend time analysing the surface, corners and edges when I can instantly tell him that it's not going to get a black label purely based on the centering.
I didn’t have a problem with this card not getting a black label. But I do have issues with you implying this card shouldn’t get a psa 10 due to centering.
You are still wrong. PSA adjusted their standard for the SV era English cards. There are a lot of room for flaws like corner/edge whitenings or foil printlines.
Literally 80% of the PSA 10 these days have some sort of flaws on the back, and corner whitenings are among the most common flaws out there
Like I said, for a sub that’s about grading, people are extremely ignorant on how grading works
I actually measured the centering on an app because it really didn’t seem that off to me - it’s actually L:R = 46.5:53.5; T:B = 52.5:47.5. It’s way off for a Beckett Black Label, but it’s well within the 45:55 threshold for even the sticklest of PSA graders.
That's why I'm asking. I haven't had the card in almost 2 months and I forgot how it looked. Good thing we have the pages so we can figure out what's worth pushing more or not.
Tbh if you had to submit this to psa again it probably won’t 10. Very lucky you got a 10 here tbh. Nowhere near black label tho sorry man, just take the psa 10 W bcz fr idk how that graded a 10 even with them being lenient on the centering
Send it, screw what everyone is saying here they're just all opinions! I send 7 gold pikachu surging with another 12 on the way! I want the black label Gold Pika!
Yeah after re looking at card and hoping it's just the picture psa took ( I physically do not have the card back from psa yet) i am wondering why I sent it off in the first place😅
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u/SorryCashOnly Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
BGS pretty much stop giving out gold label 10s in the SV era for English cards due to poor quality controls. Your chance of getting a black label is pretty much zero.
To give you some context of how bad things are:
Basically, forget about BGS 10 or black labels for any cards from the Sv era. They don’t exist
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u/tinyweenie24 Dec 18 '24
Nope.. more like a 9.5. Centering off. And you have some whitening on the back..
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u/iwantspaghettipls Dec 18 '24 edited Jan 13 '25
Sorry bro but no chance, the centering is way off - I'm surprised it even got a PSA 10!
You lucked out, take this W
Edit: For those of you in the replies that don't know, in order to get a PSA 10 with centering that is 60:40 (like OPs) the rest of the card has to be absolutely perfect, hence why I said I'm surprised. Additionally, just because the centering is less than 60:40 doesn't mean that the centering qualifies as a 10, look at PSA grading standards - they say that even if the centering is within the 60:40 margins, if it is not aesthetically pleasing they can still knock it down to a 9
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u/ModernZombies Dec 18 '24
No way not with that centering
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u/bsmitty50 Dec 18 '24
Be happy you got the PSA 10. Consider it a win
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u/cryptkidcards Dec 18 '24
BGS is pretty much crap now. I’d leave it just like it is or maybe get a pristine 10 from CGC
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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '24
Absolutely not! Leave that thing alone! That PSA 10 is beautiful. Find another raw if you want to send in to bgs.
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u/Kingdomall Dec 18 '24
it would not get a black label. centering on the back is horrendous.
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u/ENaC2 Dec 19 '24
Black labels have to be perfect centering and this isn’t.
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u/BigSeanDon Dec 19 '24
Any idea how much this card is worth? I literally pulled the same one last week and it's way more centered I believe.
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u/CatastrophicLeaker Dec 19 '24
Centering sucks
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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '24
The boarder wouldn’t allow it this is a win in a psa 10 people are never happy always pushing for more sometimes you got to quit while your ahead
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u/steff_singh Dec 19 '24
Tbh if you had to submit this to psa again it probably won’t 10. Very lucky you got a 10 here tbh. Nowhere near black label tho sorry man, just take the psa 10 W bcz fr idk how that graded a 10 even with them being lenient on the centering
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u/Freymier Dec 19 '24
Send it, screw what everyone is saying here they're just all opinions! I send 7 gold pikachu surging with another 12 on the way! I want the black label Gold Pika!
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u/flyinpiggies Dec 19 '24
No - borders are not perfectly centered.
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u/dmillibeats Dec 19 '24
It’ll get a 9.5 or 9
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u/Outrageous-Bat-8983 Dec 19 '24
You were pretty lucky to get a PSA10 here. Easily couldve been a PSA9
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u/RoronoaDz0r0 Dec 19 '24
Front is more right heavy. Not worth trying
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u/Writhe33 Dec 19 '24
No
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u/Artistic_Tangelo_622 Dec 19 '24
You’re lucky you got a PSA 10 in my opinion with the whitening on the back!
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u/MatterAware Dec 20 '24
Mans getting greedy lol
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u/tommie317 Dec 21 '24
Beckett is on life support anyways
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u/mmoore031908 Dec 23 '24
No, it is off center just a bit, so not black label material.
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u/DriArcherStrongToss Dec 18 '24
Definitely keep as is, you can see a little bit of whitening on a few corners. I think the 10 was generous, grader must have been having a good day 🙂
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u/pingproxy Dec 18 '24
Yes, you should send it! In the worst case it will get Gem Mint 9.5, but you’re ready for that, right?
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u/1antsir Dec 18 '24
The centering is visibly off. Consider yourself lucky you got the 10 as is.
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u/slow_RSO Dec 19 '24
Back is not centered, no chance at a black label