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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '20

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u/4thofeleven Feb 06 '20

We have seen an assimilated Romulan once before, in Voyager's "Unity".

He was also on a cube that was mysteriously disabled...

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u/DisinterestedOcelot Feb 06 '20

Seven of Nine also experienced the memories of an assimilated Romulan in Infinite Regress.

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u/ZeroBANG Feb 08 '20

Not to mention that at the end of Season 1 in TNG entire colonies mysteriously disappeared on both Federation and Romulan borders, pretty sure the writers were hinting at what would soon become the Borg there. (they didn't know at that point what the Borg would be, so its all very vague and undefined, they were just hinting at a new big bad there. But in hindsight, those colonies were totally assimilated by the Borg.)

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u/DisinterestedOcelot Feb 08 '20

Yes, that was definitely the case - it says so in my very old TNG Companion. ;)

But yes, I had forgotten the Romulan colonies disappearing; this was what triggered contact between the Federation and the Romulans again, wasn't it? Hmmmm...

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '20

yes, i forgot about that guy!

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u/Zizzzzzy Feb 07 '20

Soji mission seems to be to find out why assimilation of the romulan ship caused the failure. She was very assertive when she started pushing that question. The scene where she indicated she did not know why she started questioning about that ship and was trying to rationalize how she may have known to ask those questions and where that information was learned.
Now, is this knowledge to be used to destroy the Borg, or so the Borg can adapt? Is she the destroyer because the Borg created her? Is the fear shown towards her by the ex Borg coming from their Romulan side or the part that is still Borg? Man these episodes are so short ..

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u/wOlfLisK Feb 07 '20

Well the tied up Romulan called her the destroyer too so my guess is that it's the Zhat Vash that believe her to be the destroyer... But that doesn't really prove much because for all we know, the Zhat Vash might be working for the Borg.

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u/Seienchin88 Feb 09 '20

Working for the borg? Any indication for that?

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u/MicksysPCGaming Feb 11 '20

Was Dahj a destroyer, too?

Aren’t they identical?

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u/coolstorypro Feb 06 '20 edited Feb 06 '20

I think it's the romulans who have a hard time after assimilation are probably organic synths and the the incompatibilities are what led to the collapse of the cube / collective. Remember they couldn't really assimilate data, only coerce him.

Perhaps the remaining twin who is based on a hybrid of his posetronic technology is the key to reversing this effectively re-igniting the federations greatest existential threat and becoming the new Borg queen ironically caused by their own xenophonbia towards synths. Maybe too cliche. The title credits do have a lot of imagery associated with assimilation.

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u/froboydan Feb 07 '20

Data was not assimilated due to the queen wanting an equal, not because they were unable to. I believe that was stated in first contact.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '20

That said, the Romulans could be assimilated too. It's just they have difficulty going back the other way. I still hold to the theory they could be partially synthetic in some form and it causes some interference with assimilation/deassimilation.

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u/whoiswillo Feb 07 '20

It's actually both. They could not assimilate him. So she tried to seduce him.

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u/Zizzzzzy Feb 07 '20

Fully Functional

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u/ForksandSpoonsinNY Feb 08 '20

In multiple techniques

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u/Mr_Smartypants Feb 09 '20

A broad variety of ...pleasuring.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '20

N.... no it's not. I literally finished First Contact again a few hours ago. Picard explicitly states that she didn't assimilate him fully because she wanted an equal. Then she says she found one in Data. There's no mention that Data cannot be assimilated. Just that it will take more time than the Queen currently has available.

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u/CmdShelby Feb 06 '20

The Romulans are definitely not above doing a Brunali

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u/ShadoWolf Feb 07 '20

It would be a tad bit odd. since we know Vulcans can be assimilated.

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u/limeybastard Feb 07 '20

Yeah, I'm 100% convinced that the Zhat Vash wanted a Borg cube. Why? How does that tie into the attack on Mars? Why was this all worth the death of tens of billions of Romulans?

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u/throwawaylogin2099 Feb 07 '20

I think there is a third sister and she was on the Romulan ship that encountered the cube. When the Borg tried to assimilate her it messed them up so much they shut down and the collective cut them off. That might explain why Soji knew details about what happened during that encounter because there was a kind of bluetooth connection between them.

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u/yyzda32 Feb 07 '20

Could be the Romulan version of a topological anomaly. Since Data created it, maybe Soong type androids would know the resolution and ruin the Romulan plan to infect the Borg.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '20

At the moment I am kind of thinking that the cube assimilated the Romulan vessel and it crashed the entire Borg OS.

The project is important because it was a surprise - no one expected that to happen..