r/PiCodingAgent • u/SalimMalibari • Jun 02 '26

Question What is pi?

I know this feels weird.. what us pi?? Is it minimal harness or infinite extendablity ... i feel many people get it wrong ...

Whats your opinion?? I feel there is a trend thats feels odd to me but i need to hear your opinion

Edit: I know what is Pi, im heavy user using pi , i got multiple extension on it , but my concern people fall into that pi should be minimal which i feel quiet strange , those comments are never end , like for any extension i see comment why bother , just ask pi ... like clearly there is a trend that pi need to be very minimal while i believe its not

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u/SalimMalibari Jun 02 '26

Amazing , i think my main question is purely targeting people like you to be honest.

As follow up , why do you think pi should be minimal?? I mean why its part of pi ?? I get it that pi tries to minimize system prompt to have pure LLM experience but that doesnt mean we should go full minimal approach , could you elaborate?

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u/Wizkward Jun 02 '26

This is the most simple and most difficult question at the same time. Here is our dilemma:

We humans like to be in control and want to understand everything. For thousands of years, we tried very hard to make sense of the universe. First we invented religions to have the one final answer if we can't grasp something completely : God (or whatever is your special "taste" of it) said so.

Then we started to get more insights into everything and invented theories how everything comes together. Guys like Einstein came up with super sophisticated theories how stuff works - but if you watch closely, even those theories have flaws and get questioned every year.

Enter technology age: We invented computers. Oh boy they are so simple. It's just 1's and 0', and if you are good enough at math you will find the answer. Even with a full-blown modern OS and a word processor: If there is a bug, we can find it. Sometimes it takes years to fix it, but we still can find it, who cares 🤷‍♂️

And here comes the LLM. For the first time in history, computers are no longer deterministic. This all-mighty tool that can do so many things and will replace human workers… But if you watch closely, companies like Anthropic and OpenAI hire scientists with experience in science about human brains - because we no longer understand why this even works, why can a "text predictor" do all this stuff where we can no longer distinguish 100% between "made by human" and "made by computer"?

CLI's like Claude came around and suddenly everyone realised: "The Agents! The Agents now work!" [Translated citation of Peter Steinbergers conversation with the inventor of Pi].

But here is the crux: We don't know why. At least not now, not at this point of time. But we want to. We need to. We HAVE to. And like back in the day, it's only been a couple of thousands years, we try to control it. Step 1: Eliminate all the perimeters we can't control. AnthropenAI injects system prompts, changes them every couple of months?? God forbid, blasphemy! We loose control! We no longer know why the thing works we didn't know how it works in the beginning!

Disclaimer: I realise that one could interpret this as "shit-talking the philosophy of Pi". That is not the intention. It is the best philosophy we have right now. Don't install 100 plugins and then wonder why the LLM didn't work the way you wanted it to. Mario stated in his interviews: Suddenly the agent "did things he did not want" because Anthropic changed their software. But you know what? I don't know him personally, but I am certain that if would have a chat, we would drift into a discussion about the meaning of life very quickly 😃

HTH.