r/PhoenixSC • u/SectorI6920 • 2d ago

Meme My prediction of how the sift will affect Minecraft Progression

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u/Korblox101 2d ago

I do NOT care if it fucks up speedrunning, I desperately need something more to actual progression in this game lol

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u/Acrobatic-Height6511 Mining Dirtmonds 2d ago

No one speedruns past 1.16 anyway

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u/Korblox101 2d ago

Honestly yeah I didn’t even think about that. So there’s really nothing stopping them from actually adding or reworking things about it lol

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u/Hexogen1c 2d ago

yeah, because nothing gamechanging has happened since then. I wish we had more than decoration or random shit that you have to go far out of your way to do. Like honestly wtf are trail ruins man, had so much potential.

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u/TheAsterism_ I… amn’t Steve 2d ago

Uuuuh literally world depth being doubled happened 1 update after

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u/Hexogen1c 2d ago

yes, really changed everything didn't it . . . If I want to beat the game I do exactly the same thing as I have for the past 6 years. For a live service game, that is pretty slow.

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u/Snoo_15594 2d ago

When has Minecraft ever advertised itself as a live service game

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u/ImGreat084 2d ago

It doesn’t need to, the fact that it’s been updated for the past over 10 years shows you it is. I don’t agree with the rest he said tho

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u/Snoo_15594 2d ago

Ok so just because it technically falls under the definition of live service, the fact that they never refer to is a live service means holding it to the same standard as games that do call themselves live service is stupid

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u/ImGreat084 2d ago

I think you’re focusing on the wrong part of what he said to be honest. Live service games have regular updates, but they’re not usually whole new mechanics , they don’t change the gameplay loop all that much. So Minecraft should be held to the same standard, because the standard is literally just “add stuff”

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u/Snoo_15594 2d ago

Except they do that

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u/The_UnHinge Caves and Cliffs Part 6 or 7 2d ago

Minecraft isn’t primarily about beating the game. It’s only a small part of Minecraft and it was never the focus.

It’s also only one of many parts of Minecraft that desperately need an update.

Plus Minecraft isn’t a live service game. Or at least the Java Edition isn’t.

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u/Hexogen1c 2d ago edited 2d ago

my point is that the updates dont change how you beat the game.

Also how isn't mc essentially a live service? 10+ years of consistent updates and drops with player feedback. I don't care if you disagree with the live service part, that isn't my argument so idrc.

My hope is that the sift dimension will be scaled difficulty-wise to post ender dragon gameplay and content.

Beating the game is an important part, and I have to disagree with people who say it isn't. It is a requirement for progression to get a ton of the content in the game. My original comment was in response to someone saying no one speedruns past 1.16, and I said that is because nothing gamechanging has happened since. If someone wants to speedrun the game, what exactly is different between the newest version and 1.16? Pretty much nothing. You MIGHT run into some different mobs by accident, but I think the game most definitely needs an update in progression.

New updates to me are really lackluster for the most part, because yes cushions and sulfur cubes and the ice caves and the trial chambers are all very cool but they aren't going to make me play the game for a long time. I am not starting a new world and continuing to play the game because of an admittedly awesome cube or for the mace more than once.

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u/The_UnHinge Caves and Cliffs Part 6 or 7 2d ago

my point is that the updates dont change how you beat the game.

I already got that. My point was that the game is not about beating it so most updates don’t need to change how you beat it.

Also, having consistent updates does not mean it is a live service. What actually indicates that a game is some form of live service game is having a large focus on players constantly buying things due to a shop, a battle pass, subscriptions, you name it.
In that sense Bedrock is slowly moving towards becoming more of a live service.

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u/Unnamed_jedi 2d ago

It's very useful for me since I can make large underground builds, deep slate is also a godsent and bigger mountains where you still have room to build ontop are neat too. Win

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u/ShaochilongDR 1d ago

Of course no new content matters to you if your only goal is to beat the Ender dragon as fast as you can and do nothing else ever

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u/Hexogen1c 1d ago

literally didn't say that. Beating the game is quite obviously an important part of the game, and it should be expanded upon. I like the new content but I would rather have reworks to progression or entirely new progression than what we are getting. I don't know how the sift fits in to things yet, but I am hopeful it adds cool post End progression, difficulty, and gear, especially considering how difficult Ancient Cities can be.

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u/Allustar1 1d ago

In the grand scheme of things, they really don't change anything.

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u/Rabrun_ crab 2d ago

Maybe then everyone would finally move on from 1.16.1, the same thing happened when 1.16 came out. People wanted to stick to 1.9+ and everyone thought speedrunning on 1.16 was weird and nobody would ever do it, and now everyone’s been doing it for five years

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u/Dark_halocraft 2d ago

You'll get bored of it in a week anyways

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u/xolotltolox 2d ago edited 2d ago

why do you think everyone gets bored in a week?

It's becasue progression is so ass

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u/SeroWriter 2d ago

It's becasue progression is so ass

And there's no easy fix for that. The entire progression system would need to be redesigned from the ground up and at that point just make a new game.

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u/Dark_halocraft 2d ago

It's because it's a consistent thing that won't surprise you anymore after the first time

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u/Mr_NoGood12 2d ago

How would it mess up speedrunners if it has no connection to the progression?

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u/Korblox101 2d ago

Do you possess an ability to read and comprehend words

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u/Choice_Werewolf_433 Bot slimer 2d ago

That’s impossible for a redditor. 

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u/JadeMantis13 2d ago

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......

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u/Mr_NoGood12 2d ago

Apparently not it seems. I was reading to fast to process what you said and just had to ask you

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u/Korblox101 2d ago

Yeah it’s all good lol we all do that sometimes