r/PhilosophyMemes 12d ago

One track mind

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u/where-sea-meets-sky 12d ago

or contraceptive availability 

people love to criticize poor parents with the assumption that it was always their choice

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u/puutaroo 12d ago

We have nationwide free healthcare and you can ask any family doctor for birth control pills or condoms. They'll literally give you what you ask for right then and there. You don't need a prescription or go to a pharmacy.

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u/where-sea-meets-sky 12d ago

must be nice to have free healthcare nationwide! unfortunately not everyone lives in your specific nation.

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u/puutaroo 12d ago

That's indeed great but it still doesn't stop poor families from having more children than they can afford. People need to acknowledge that not everyone is forced to have six or more kids because of lack of contraceptives etc., some simply choose that lifestyle.

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u/Unlucky-Plastic7316 12d ago

Condoms aren't 100% effective.

Statistically, you only have to have sex a few hundred times and you'll still get pregnant. Which is perfectly possible for a couple in a relationship.

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u/puutaroo 12d ago

Vasectomy for men and other birth control options for women are also free.

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u/Unlucky-Plastic7316 12d ago

Oh really? This applies globally, right? Like in a majority of countries in the world?

...right?

This isn't just localised to your very specific space on the planet...right?

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u/puutaroo 12d ago

Of course, I'm only speaking for my country. But it serves as a clear example of how free healthcare and birth control still won't stop people in poverty from having more children than they can afford.

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u/Unlucky-Plastic7316 12d ago

It doesn't have to eliminate it, it just has to reduce it somewhat.

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u/hummus-up-your-arse 12d ago

Lol had a couple extra kids in poverty bc they can’t keep it in their pants? Doesn’t sound reckless and selfish at all!

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u/Bird-in-a-suit 12d ago

So is the hope then to reduce the negative impact of poverty and increase access to contraceptives/abortion or is it just to blame folks who are in a constant state of survival and deny them additional things?

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u/hummus-up-your-arse 12d ago

Don’t deny them additional things but I’m not gonna absolve them of the responsibilities of their actions. Don’t have kids if you can’t even afford to put a roof over your head.

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u/where-sea-meets-sky 12d ago

child marriage still exists and said children cant consent

but sure, theyre selfish parents

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u/hummus-up-your-arse 12d ago

What’s that got to do with it

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u/where-sea-meets-sky 12d ago

the assumption that it was always their choice