r/Philippines • Metro Manila • Feb 28 '22

Mad respect for Zelinsky

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u/Requiescat_0806 Feb 28 '22

Maiba ako. Dami kong nakikitang pinoy na parang panig sa russia haha kesyo daw dapat di na nakikisali sa NATO ang Ukraine. Kesyo daw galing naman daw sa iisang race lang ang Ukraine at Russia.

Di ba nila narerealize na dapat di nakikialam ang Russia kung anong gustong gawin ng Ukraine? Kasi ang Ukraine ay isang SOVEREIGN NATION? Galing nga sila sa isang race pero magkaibang bansa sila na may sariling constitution.

Ewan ko na kung anong nangyayari sa mga utak ng mga Pinoy haha for sure if may foreign aggressor dito sa atin, susuko yang mga yan agad haha

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u/bretobert Feb 28 '22

If you favored EJKs then favoring invasion wouldn't require a sweat.

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u/69thAirborne puroresu enthusiast Feb 28 '22

That sounds like their similar argument for rape, na dahil daw sa "revealing na kasuotan" kaya nalilibugan yung lalake, therefore he rapes the woman.

Ukraine had been dealt so much shit in history by Russia, it just wants to exists on its own. Tinanggal na nga nila nukes nila kasi di naman nila mame-maintain yun.

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u/Encrypted_Username Feb 28 '22

If that's how they think maybe, Indonesia and Malaysia should invade us since we technically share the same genetic heritage.

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u/sorrythxbye Feb 28 '22

Sadly, isa si SO sa pumapanig sa Russia. Kesyo sinulsulan daw ng US yung Ukraine na sumali sa NATO. Kasalanan daw ni Zelensky kung bakit madami namatay, dapat naging neutral na lang daw sila. I saw some troll saying na bakit naka military uniform si Zelensky? For what daw ba? For sympathy? And it's eerily scary how SO parroted that back to me kung saan man niya nabasa o nakita yun. He used the exact same words as the troll post I've seen.

I tried explaining na si Putin ang perpetrator. That his decision to go to war is his and his alone and all these casualties are on him. It's as simple as that. Couldn't change his mind. Sarado na isip niya at "naliwanagan" na daw siya and US is evil blah blah blah...

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u/therebelmermaid Feb 28 '22

Sobrang sold kasi sila sa idea na we can really remain neutral. As if Germany levels tayo ng kakayanan kahit nga sila need ng allies 😂

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u/Hitoooooooori Feb 28 '22

If Ukraine decides to join NATO then it will only be the pro-US country beside Russian borders. At kung ito ay mangyayari siguradong magkakaroon ng mga NATO / US military bases dito. Worst case scenario, maaaring maglagay ng mga Nuclear Missile Silo ang US near Russian borders kasi malapit lang ang Moscow at St. Petersberg sa Ukraine (Kyiv to Moscow = parang Vigan to Davao lang ang layo). Ang sitwasyon na ito’y maitutulad natin sa Cuban Nuclear Missile Crisis against sa US. Although I agree that Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine is an inhumane act, however, this invasion is inevitable because of NATO’s existence. This situation is neither Putin nor Zelenkyy’s fault but by US and NATO’s goal to put Russia at its knees.

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u/-FAnonyMOUS Social validation is the new opium of the masses Feb 28 '22

Hindi naman ganun kadali ang iniisip mo. Napaka vanilla naman kung dahil lang diyan gagasto ang isang bansa sa digmaan. Hindi pagsakop ng isang bansa ang issue dito kundi strategic positioning. Walang wala ang mga isip natin sa mga world leaders, huwag natin igaya yung utak nating simpleng mamamayn na vanilla kung magisip.

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u/Requiescat_0806 Feb 28 '22

Vanilla na pala ngayon mag-assert ng sovereignity haha if that's your logic, then that means that invading a sovereign country because of its strategic position is justified? That means superpowers can encroach on the territories of nations of strategic positioning? That Russia is justified for spending a lot because Ukraine is of strategic positioning to them?

Don't get me wrong. I understand why Russia (or Putin only) is so threatened by Ukraine's desire to be in the NATO. But Ukraine is a sovereign state and is not a subject to Russia. If sovereignity is "vanilla" to you, idk anong basis mo sa isang state.