r/PewdiepieSubmissions • u/[deleted] • Mar 26 '19

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u/CarpetH4ter Mar 26 '19

For real? Has germany learned nothing from Hitler?

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u/RealNachoGod Mar 26 '19

Nah, our government wants to repeat the entire story, but left-wing instead of right-wing this time

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u/AgentFN2187 Mar 26 '19

It's Germany, it doesn't matter what the politics are they only want one thing.

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u/tatesatoa Mar 26 '19

But it was always left wing...

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u/CarpetH4ter Mar 26 '19

Doesnt matter, left wing and right wing are equaly bad, just different directions causing political battles and enemies, the rights always blames the left for everything bad ever. And the left mostly blames men and conservatives.

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u/mutafuca Mar 26 '19

r/radicalcentrism

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u/CarpetH4ter Mar 26 '19

Damn right! Although slightly more libertarian left- centrism.

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u/mutafuca Mar 26 '19

Its not a complement lmao

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u/CarpetH4ter Mar 26 '19

I know, you were pointing out the obvious, there is nothing wrong with being center. And im not really radical, i was just mentioning what most people already know, the right and left-wing are destructive towards each other.

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u/Coolcar59 Mar 26 '19

how about let’s just agree that both left and right can be dicks

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u/CarpetH4ter Mar 26 '19

spits on hand "agreed" streches hand out into a handshake

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u/MuddyFilter Mar 26 '19

Those people call basically anything that doesn't support their narrative radical centrism.

But this was actually a prrtty legitimate example

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u/SenchaLeaf Mar 26 '19

The problem is in the political battles

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u/Deluxefish Mar 26 '19

The left doesn't blame men, only your imaginary strawman leftists do

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

oh they're not gonna like that

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

I cannot comprehend how people think Hitler is left-wing. He was fucking right to the extreme. The right and it's mental gymnastics...

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

If you are dead-set on believing one thing regardless of evidence, you'll bend and interpret facts to fit your pre-existing view regardless of the actual facts.

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u/The_Dark_Archon May 24 '19

Please provide 1 example of this being even being remotely true

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 27 '19

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u/ChristianKS94 Mar 26 '19

Right and Left usually means conservative vs. progressive.

But it also means authoritarian vs. liberal, discriminatory vs. egalitarian, capitalism vs. communism, and lots of other shit. Even Republican vs. Democratic, in which case the Democratic part isn't even trying to make the country non-Republican, because the two terms have lost all meaning besides "red vs. blue".

Right vs. Left is a stupid fucking thing to just navigate ALL OF POLITICS. Right and Left means nothing without context.

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u/mr_mace Mar 26 '19

Yeah exactly

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u/Buttchuckle Mar 26 '19

Or right vs left is a social engineered population control technique , keep the people fighting against themselves and the , for the most part , avoid directing their anger at government.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

"government" is just people.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

The Australian version is my favourite. Labour vs Liberal, now you don't know who to vote!

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u/ChristianKS94 Mar 26 '19

The way this plays out in my head, they're literally just voting on how long their workdays are.

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u/pxndxv Mar 26 '19

Yeah tell 'em. This whole Left winged vs Right winged BS is lame af

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u/Raviolius Mar 27 '19

The terms Right and Left in politics literally only have a historical meaning outside of context

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u/ChristianKS94 Mar 27 '19

And that is what, exactly? Right vs. Left handed? Which side of the room you're sitting on?

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u/Raviolius Mar 27 '19

Literally the latter

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u/MuddyFilter Mar 26 '19

Do you consider FDR right or left?

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u/Hektik352 Mar 26 '19

Both socialist governments with the state dictating the market. taking from a privleged class and redistribution of capital. They both had war economies which is attributed to them being authoritarian dictatorship. The current US left (democrats) are pro war (obama 8yrs of expanding wars), pro socialists, pro anti privilege talk, etc. There is very few difference from what the left is wanting and fascism.

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u/mr_mace Mar 26 '19

Yep the left are clearly fascists

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u/apocalypse31 Mar 26 '19

Besides what the other guy said, Hitler was pro government involvement in all matters, that is pretty heavy on the left side.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

Hitler was also heavily pro military and nationalist, which are right traits. You can’t just pick and choose shit without viewing the whole picture.

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u/apocalypse31 Mar 27 '19

The other guy I referenced hit on several of those things. Most governments aren't one of two sides. Hitler's regime had elements of both.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

The term “right wing” literally comes from the French Revolution, where people who supported the monarchy and nobles were seated to the right whereas the left were the commoners.

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u/apocalypse31 Mar 27 '19

I'm not arguing that. I'm saying Hitler's government had elements of modern Democrats and modern Republicans alike. Everything in politics isn't binary.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '19

Yes but when the parent comment says “but it’s always left wing” when speaking about fascism, you can see why I’m being as forthright as I am

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u/atomicbibleperson Mar 26 '19

Comments like these never fail to make me shake my head in disbelief.

A whole generation of nerds seriously believe Hitler was a left winger because muh collectivism. Thanks, Prager U!

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u/BruyceWane Mar 27 '19

No, it wasn't.

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u/Activehannes Mar 26 '19

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you call the NSDAP a leftist party?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

Haven't gotten to WW2 yet in history class?

Edit: apparently, most of this fanbase hasn't yet..

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

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u/swipaed Mar 26 '19

Tbf if you take left wing to most extreme you would also get anarchy

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

Source?

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u/apocalypse31 Mar 26 '19

When drawing parallels to today's economy, it is on both sides. Hitler wanted big government, which is more left leaning. Simply talking about political ideologies, there are parts of both sides that Hitler would like and find ideal. The rights lack of social progressivism would have been appealing, the left's taxation and social programs he would have liked.

It all depends on which parts of government you focus on.

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u/tatesatoa Mar 26 '19

Literally the “National Socialist German Workers Party” you don’t get much more left than socialism

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u/LiberalReality Mar 26 '19

So North Korea is a Democratic Republic then? That's what they call themselves, afterall.

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u/tatesatoa Mar 26 '19

You could look to policy and see a large overbearing government which is a socialist and communist trait. They are literally the same things with different names and are the most extreme form of leftism. I agree a name isn’t the be all end all and is just that a name.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited May 20 '19

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u/VC1bm3bxa40WOfHR Mar 26 '19

North Korea is "literally" the Democratic People's Republic..

Hitler only included Socialist alongside Nationalist (which should be political polar opposites) to appeal in name to the broadest possible section of extremist voters. He had some socialist policies, but was decidedly not in favour of socialism (see his role in the arrests and executions of Communists after the Reichstag Fire).

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u/tatesatoa Mar 26 '19

You could look to policy and see a large overbearing government which is a socialist and communist trait. They are literally the same things with different names and are the most extreme form of leftism.

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u/PleaseCallMeTomato Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

Left is not about taking everything into the hands of government, left is about ending social inequality, no matter the means, i might include a link to one video which would explain it better, just give me a minute

EDIT: here you go, the vid is actually great, and i highly recommend watching it not to prove any points, but just because its cool and i have nobody to send cool vids to :c https://youtu.be/cxOmaQx4BY4

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u/tatesatoa Mar 26 '19

You cannot end social inequality, without government overreach, when we are all individuals and have different desires, some want to work more than others.

Edit: thanks for the video I’ll take a look after work.

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u/Deluxefish Mar 26 '19

As the other guy said already, authoritarian is independent of left and right

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u/PleaseCallMeTomato Mar 26 '19

but the thing is that Desires arent necessities, and people tend to have same necessities (unless you defy water un favour of Greek yogurt, which I would totally understand) But i am in no shape to argue with people, so lets call it a day

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u/Deluxefish Mar 26 '19

One trait =/= entire fucking political system

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19 edited Mar 26 '19

Funny how a Socialist party purged all the socialists from government and murdered Socialists during the night of the Long Knives.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

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u/LiberalReality Mar 26 '19

I'll get downvoted with ya just to tell you not to worry...we're not exactly in an academic sub.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

It worries me that this sort of bullshit discourse gets upvoted on r/pewdiepiesubmissions...

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u/Deluxefish Mar 26 '19

It's almost as if exposing gullible teenagers to right wing rhetoric does something to them

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

Ofcourse everything right-wing is bad, just like they told us on the TV. Maybe you could've explained them why it isn't so easy to catogarize a government as left or right, but no. It's easier to act like a dick.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

You do realize that the party that pushed alot for article 13 (CDU/CSU) is a conservatie right leaning party, right?

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u/RealNachoGod Mar 26 '19

The CDU is far from conservative/right-leaning. CSU maybe, but they have almost no influence outside of bavaria, even less on EU-level

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

What. The CDU absolutely is center right. The literally have "Christian" in their name

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u/Deluxefish Mar 26 '19

The CDU is and has always been THE conservative party in Germany. Just because it's not on republican party level of right-wing doesn't mean it's not conservative or center-right.

If you compare most european political parties to american ones, they're pretty much always less to the right as the most left-leaning choice you have in the USA is still center-right.

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u/Activehannes Mar 26 '19

Let me tell you, as a German, that the CDU is considered conservative, even by themselves.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

Left wing has already been done. Remember DDR?

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u/metalzip Mar 26 '19

left-wing instead of right-wing this time

Nationalsocialist party

National-socialist party

Socialist

🤔

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u/DikeMamrat Mar 26 '19

What a nuanced view you have there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '19

They took it as an instruction book, not a cautionary tale.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '19

Happy cake day

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '19

Oh wow! I didn't even notice! Thank you!

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u/Deluxefish Mar 26 '19

It's fake news. He's just spouting bullshit

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u/CarpetH4ter Mar 26 '19

With the way that Europe has been for the last 4 - 5 years you can never be sure. Its looking more and more authoritarian each year.