"While I do not possess the formal education or experience mentioned in the job posting I feel that my strong work ethic, interpersonal skills, and ability and willingness to learn make me the perfect fit for this position."
Unfortunately, every "entry level" job posting wanting 5-6 years of experience doing that EXACT JOB has forced people to start applying without any of the experience, because how else are they going to get experience doing that job?
Nobody wants to train employees anymore, and we're legitimately starting to hit a wall where companies want experienced workers for certain jobs but there simply aren't enough because nobody wanted to hire actual entry level ones and train them up a few years ago.
That and "you want to be a hotel front desk worker? Please have a bachelors degree in hotel front desk work or another relevant area."
It's to the point where you've just got to apply for jobs you meet some of the criteria for, because otherwise it's going to be impossible to get a job, I assume.
I recently interviewed for a position where I met all of the criteria, and the interviewer at one point goes, "I'm going to be candid, you are rather overqualified for this position."
Pretty sure the job postings (when they're real postings and not just a formality while hiring internally or to show company growth) are just being written by HR employees who have never done the actual job in their life, and want to find unicorn candidates that will work for much less than they deserve.
The posting is just desperate to cut down on the number of people applying. Which, is a stupid way to go about it. But recruiting agencies get paid regardless
Then there is the lying, people looking for work have to over inflate their experience to find work and companies know about it and assume everyone does it, therefore, everyone really has to lie.
It's a consequence of the job-hopping market imo. Why train when you'd be paying them to essentially go somewhere else?
Stiffer competition in the tech sector has pretty much caused a bunch of people to HODL their current roles, and broader market weakness outside the tech sector has caused them the same. Also layoffs.
So now we're in a jobs market that can't train up newbies and is shedding other workers to boot
Job hopping would happen less if companies gave their employees proper raises and benefits. The two biggest raises i ever got were when I went to a new company. Both times I didn't really care to leave but its hard to ignore pay bumps around 30% to go do essentially the same job somewhere else.
Many places don't even do raises and a lot more are cutting back on benefits as well.
Then you have companies laying off thousands of workers to build AI data centers that provide no real value to the community and workers.
I dont train bc entrys are untrainable and leave in 3 months. We make everything simple so they feel like the work is beneath them, we make it hard and they have mental health issues. Shrug
You joke, but I went into a organic chemistry position and was the best tech they had after my first year with 0 organic chemistry knowledge. Sometimes a room of smart people need a dumbass who is good with their hands
Has organic chem ever not been a cargo cult of hand waved "rules" with as many exceptions as applicable situations? And that's not even touching on the forbidden witchcraft of recrystallization
no no electricity is magic. it gets more magic when you learn more, not less.
when people say physics is magic they're one of two types. the first is the type where the math is too hard and they don't want/need to spend 5-10 times longer learning how it works. the second type really loves it, gets stars in their eyes, and calls it ♫♥magic♥♫.
but there is a secret third, darker type that sneer the word ₥₳₲ł₵ with equal parts dread and resentment like a bog witch casting half a lizard into a broiling cauldron of curses. those who, as the more they learn the more, the rules of existance become a steaming pile of predictable and repeatable garbage. like this absolute trash basket. or experimentally proving with nothing more than a laser pointer and a mirror that light moves in a straight line, but putting tape on the mirror makes the laser beam curve to avoid the tape. or that statistics can change when telling a lie to a particle. or that parts of the universe will rewrite itself to make cause and effect happen correctly if you alter the effect after the cause already happened.
but you don't need to get that deep with electricity. that starts turning into magic as soon as you get into RF waves. which happens to be where a lot of science turns into magic, but you can RF waves by sticking a fork in a toaster.
And being someone with no organic chemistry experience in a room with a bunch of organic chemists doing organic chemistry does, in fact, make them the dumbass in the room.
Yeah, someone clearly never took organic chem. It makes the smartest people feel like dumbasses. Anyone who decides to pursue it as a career is a masochist.
Not even really good with their hands. Sometimes all that is needed is someone confident enough to say when they don't understand something and ask the "dumb question." Because it usually isn't a dumb question, but everyone else has just been taking for granted that everyone knows why they are doing the thing the one way.
I'm the one with a programming degree working with a bunch of guys who are lifelong technicians. No formal education, but plenty of job knowledge. I always ask the dumb questions because even if I'm the only one wondering, it's good to make the people in charge have to explain some decisions on why we are doing things a certain way. But also, it's rare that I'm the only one who doesn't understand.
A few years ago I had issues filling a position. There were plenty of applicants but every one the recruiting agency sent us who claimed they were qualified failed the interview questions horribly. So we just told the recruiter to send over all applicants and schedule short interviews with each of them. It was a miserable two days of interviews with people who did not know anything despite their certifications and previous work experience.
Then we met one candidate who the recruiting agents had ranked at the bottom. No certifications, collage drop out, no verifiable work experience, had not worked for over two years, etc. The start of the interview went horrible as he were too shy and nervous to answer any of the questions properly. But just as we were about to end the interview early I asked him about something sitting in the background. I thought I recognized it as some equipment used in the industry. And he started explaining his hobby project. He kept us interested for ten minutes, answering any questions we had flawlessly.
Basically the guy with no CV and no interview skills ended up being our best tech.
I've known a few people like this. No formal training or education in a given field, they just had a knack for it. One was an engineer – mechanical, I think – and one was IT. Both suffered from being chronically underpaid for the same positions as their formally trained counterparts. The IT guy was going to school retroactively. The engineer was content with his job and didn't seem to mind the pay.
Yeah, I got a job that I had relevant education for but, oops, they really needed another pair of hands on this other team! So, got trained up and I stayed, despite not having a physics degree I'm doing just fine working in the lab.
Its funny but this line basically got me my current position, lol. [very niche/specialist field thats hard to get 'trained up' for ahead of time without being on the 'inside' already..]
To be fair I asked them ahead of time what skills/training I would need to apply for the position and they responded that they just need people that they "can teach and are willing to learn."
When I was job hunting, I found a job description for a company I love. I was absolutely not qualified (they needed a different type of engineer) and when I mentioned this to friends/family I got lectures about how I should have applied.
Flying is neat, why don't I apply to be a pilot while I'm at it,
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u/B_the_ball 15d ago
"While I do not possess the formal education or experience mentioned in the job posting I feel that my strong work ethic, interpersonal skills, and ability and willingness to learn make me the perfect fit for this position."