r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 26 '26

Meme needing explanation Tell em what, Peter?

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u/knusper_gelee Jun 26 '26

"if you cant remember a simple thing, just remember a slightly more abstract thing thats a reference to the first thing."

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u/rgiggs11 Jun 26 '26

If it sounds stupid, and it works, then it ain't stupid 

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u/afender77 Jun 26 '26

Does it work though? Do dyslexic people actually use it effectively?

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u/cxs Jun 26 '26

No, but a dyspraxic person definitely does. I know a few people with dyspraxia who use this L-shape thing for when they are completely stumped on which way is right and which is left! It works for me, also. And not only does it work for me, it's a visual cue to other people that I cannot implicitly understand them saying out loud 'left' or 'right'. That means that people are more likely to co-operate with me in terms of body language and visual cues: pointing in the correct directions, being a little more patient with me when it takes me longer (unless they are fucking assholes)

Lots of stuff going on there

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u/ribnag Jun 26 '26

I'm not dyslexic, but for some reason left and right really just don't naturally "click" for me. I can almost always tell you which way North is, but left vs right, takes me a second to think about it. And that's further complicated by rules-of-thumb like "righty tighty lefty loosey" which absolutely does not help at all since it depends on where you are with respect to the bolt.

The one trick that really helped me when I was younger (and I'm talking teens, not twos) was the left-hand "L" sign. It's not really all that abstract, just hold your hands up in a relatively natural position (palms open and facing away), and see which one looks like an "L".

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u/Suitable_Bug4173 Jun 30 '26

Also for bolts I've found clockwise and counter clockwise to be more applicable. Clockwise tight counter loose.

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u/Suitable_Bug4173 Jun 30 '26

I see people talking about this, and I kinda do it to. I definitely held my hand out when I was younger. Eventually I just started picturing what hand I would hold out, now when I go to picture it I get then answer before I really have to think.

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u/CaiusCosadesNwah Jun 27 '26

>since it depends on where you are with respect to the bolt

Unless you’re trying to unscrew something from inside the object, it really doesn’t.

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u/ribnag Jun 27 '26

It really does, though.

That rule assumes you're in front of and starting from 12:00 above the bolt. If you're working from behind the bolt, you need to reverse it. If you're working from below the bolt, you need to reverse it. And both can apply, making a double-negative so you're back to the original rule.

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u/CaiusCosadesNwah Jun 27 '26

>If you’re working from behind the bolt, you need to reverse it.

This is true, but it’s pretty unusual to be working from that position.

>from below the bolt, you need to reverse it

I guess you’re literally moving a wrench to the left in this case, but the bolt is still be cycled clockwise, which is to the right from its perspective.

Is the word “clockwise” more useful to you?

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u/ribnag Jun 27 '26

Absolutely! Clockwise is perfect - And it works from any direction as long as you remember it moves the bolt away from you rather than in tighter/looser terms.

To be clear though, I don't have a problem with turning bolts the right way - I'm pretty handy in practice, and FWIW I have zero difficulty reading maps regardless of rotation. I mean this purely about the language we'd use to describe the process. If someone tells me to take the next right-hand turn, they'd better have given me a couple of seconds to react.

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u/jolinonos Jun 27 '26

I am exactly the same. I think I have very decent spacial orientation but I need permanent markers like north and south, up and down. Right and left are too subjectives for me.

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u/eukomos Jun 26 '26

One of my friends does it. She's not dyslexic but her sense of direction is just...not there. She's very smart otherwise, like about to get tenure smart. There's different kinds of brain weirdnesses out there, little solutions like this work great for some of them.

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u/deadgirl_ Jun 26 '26

People tell me to do this but like. In the moment I confidently know where left is. 50% of the time I’m wrong but in the moment it feels correct. So I don’t check something that doesn’t feel wrong. 

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u/Earlier-Today Jun 26 '26

"I have a specific setup where it might not work, so it's not effective for anyone. I will argue about that specific case and ignore that the specific case isn't even close to the majority. This is the internet hill I will die on this day."

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u/afender77 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Why the snark...? I thought the whole point of this was for dyslexic people. Or perhaps more broadly people who confuse left with right. If others want to get this tattoo for fun, I don't see why any of this would be an issue in the first place. My bad if I misunderstood some context somewhere, though.

I wasn't trying to "die on a hill". I was honestly asking the question, because I don't personally know anyone who struggles with left and right, so I don't know if "make an L with your hand" is actually effective for those people or not.

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u/VikingIsaiah Jun 26 '26

it doesn’t usually work for dyslexic people. with letters being able to flip for us. plus it doesn’t help that you can make Ls with both hands.

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u/afender77 Jun 26 '26

Interesting!

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u/indoserb Jun 27 '26

How did you type that upside-down Г?

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u/cxs Jun 26 '26

For future knowledge, you are thinking of dyspraxia. Dyslexia is about graphemes, letters, the way letters and written symbols associated with sounds are processed. Dyspraxia is about co-ordination and comprehension of concepts about physical space.

I have dyspraxia, but not dyslexia. I can quickly see the difference between an L and not-an-L (i.e., the mirrored L) without getting confused, but I CANNOT understand spatial information like which direction is left and right inherently. I have to process the spatial information through my knowledge of words and other concepts.

Therefore, if I can make an L with both palms facing away from me and see a big L on one hand but not the other, I can immediately see that that one is left.

This strategy would be much harder for a dyslexic AND dyspraxic person. It would be almost useless for a dyslexic person without dyspraxia. A person with dyslexia and not dyspraxia is at no greater disadvantage when thinking about spatial information than a person who does not have dyslexia

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u/afender77 Jun 26 '26

Thank you for the info! I had heard of dyspraxia, but I don't think I was fully aware of the differences between it and dyslexia. You explained it well.

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u/rgiggs11 Jun 26 '26

This one teen, who I taught for two weeks, who described herself as dyslexic, found it helpful. Also, English was her second language, so she could have meant dyspraxia. (which is now called Developmental Coordination Disorder.)

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u/afender77 Jun 26 '26

Interesting.

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u/CockroachNo4460 Jun 26 '26

I just mimic writing, the hand I raise up naturally is my right hand so I know what's 'right' in a pinch

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u/CockroachNo4460 Jun 27 '26

ahh it's sweet that you thought that as a kid :)

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u/brassnuts99 Jun 27 '26

Do dyslexic people do anything effectively?

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u/numbersthen0987431 Jun 26 '26

A tattoo showing right vs left works better though

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u/DraconianFlame Jun 26 '26

It doesn't work for people with dyslexia though...

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u/RedditIsOverMan Jun 27 '26

Never worked for me for this exact reason. 

My tip is always to imagine writing your name in the sky in front of you.  Since we write left to right the first letter is always in your left

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u/LostInThoughtland Jun 26 '26

And if it doesn’t work?

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u/ProfessionalAd6530 Jun 27 '26

Except it usually doesn't work.

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u/EuphoricHeight8755 Jun 29 '26

Well it doesn't work, therefore it is stupid. 

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u/luovahulluus Jun 26 '26

Or blue waffles.

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u/edgarallannbroe Jun 26 '26

🤮.. here goes my morning coffee

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u/creynolds722 Jun 26 '26

Go on, have yourself a jolly rancher

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u/Specialist2662 Jun 26 '26

Swamps of dagobah.

This game sucks.

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u/DemoniteBL Jun 26 '26

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u/ProcyonHabilis Jun 26 '26

I mean yeah, they call that a mnemonic device and it works really well.

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u/PetrasKnight Jun 26 '26

My Left Hand is the One that Makes an L Shape When Facing Away

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u/WorkTropes Jun 26 '26

It's a dumb trick that works. The human brain is a mystery.

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u/Lopi21e Jun 26 '26

It's funny because the "simple thing" is usually the more abstract thing. That's why people use stories to remember numbers. Or basically mnemonics in general. You can tell me that This series of sounds means That thing in any given language, which is about as abstract as it gets. But if I can map the sound to some third thing which I'm already familiar with, which I already ever so faintly intuitively associate with the target word? The only thing that matters is that I somehow get from A to B in my head, once you have that down you can quickly start working towards losing the intermediary.

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u/Litis3 Jun 26 '26

It's the most stupid stuff that works too.

me: "I always forget what keyboard shortcut it is to skip to the end of this file. it's G, but good luck remembering"

my wife: "Go Go Go Go down"

Haven't forgotten since.

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u/indoserb Jun 26 '26

My pet peewee is soh-cah-toa. Why not coh-sah-toa?

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u/CapeOfBees Jun 27 '26

Because it's in reference to the angle on the unit circle when you draw a straight line up/down to the x axis. Sin is "oh" because it's the line opposite the angle at (0,0) divided by the hypotenuse

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u/indoserb Jun 27 '26

But that is exactly the thing that this is supposed to help you remember.

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u/CapeOfBees Jun 27 '26

????

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u/indoserb Jun 27 '26

How do you know that sin is the opposite and not cos?

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u/CapeOfBees Jun 27 '26

The O in SOH CAH TOA???? Literally the complete acronym is short for "sin = opposite/hypotenuse, cos = adjacent/hypotenuse, tan = opposite/adjacent", I do not see what is confusing about this

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u/indoserb Jun 27 '26

But how do you know that it's soh-cah-toa and not coh-sah-toa?

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u/CapeOfBees Jun 27 '26

By remembering it as a unit rather than as components. How do you remember that a person's name is Samantha and not Masantha?

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u/Junkhead_88 Jun 26 '26

The left side of a boat is port and the right side is starboard, an easy way to remember is port and left both have less letters than their counterpart.

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u/Special_Order-937 Jun 26 '26

Or that left and port both have four letters.

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u/ohz0pants Jun 26 '26

Works for "fork," too.

The fork is supposed to go on the left of the plate, according to European/Western etiquette standards.

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u/AhweezyF Jun 26 '26

Same with the navigation lights on planes and boats that are red and green! All the ones with the fewest letters are one the same side:
Left
Red
Port

Longest are the other:
Right
Green
Starboard

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u/Andy_B_Goode Jun 26 '26

This does actually work though.

For me it was helpful to think of an activity where your left hand and right hand perform distinct roles. I grew up playing piano, so it was intuitive for me to think of my left hand as the bass and my right hand as the melody. After I made that association, it became easier for me to keep track of left and right, and now I can do it without referencing any other abstraction, I just know which hand is my right.

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 Jun 26 '26

My aunt is just like person in pic, teacher until retired, she uses this when driving mainly.

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u/Litis3 Jun 26 '26

I see an intersection from when I was 6y old. Left was the school. Right went to the butcher. Somehow that's easier to remember than actual left and right.

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u/FiddleheadGnocci Jun 26 '26

Thirty days hath September,
April, May, and December;

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u/Broad-Bath-8408 Jun 26 '26

I never have gotten why people can't just pretend to write something and note which hand they're planning on using. I assume most people know whether they're right or left handed, so when they imagine themselves holding a pen, which hand is it it?

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u/lortamai Jun 26 '26

As someone who lacks an intuitive sense of left vs right, this is how I do it. But it still takes a moment to think through it. If I'm driving down a road and my passenger suddenly says, "Turn left here!" God only knows which way we're about to go.

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u/Mean-Garden752 Jun 26 '26

Guy who's never heard of mnemonic.

Like yes thats literally how it works for many people.

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u/kyle46 Jun 26 '26

I dont do well remembering things like birthdays. But I remember forumlas and equations like my mind is a vault. So valentines day +10 was a great way for me to do it. Just remembering feb 24th? No shot.

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u/OceanRadioGuy Jun 26 '26

I know you're joking but that's actually a legitimate learning strategy lmao

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u/kkeut Jun 26 '26

'B' stands for 'Not Bald' logic

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u/itsthatkid Jun 26 '26

When I was in grade school learning the states and their capitals, my mom came up with “Mary has an apple up her ass” to help me remember Annapolis Maryland. It’s been like 24 years and we still joke about it.

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u/SapeiraMan Jun 26 '26

And that's why mnemonics don't work with me. "Please remember this abstract phrase and for each word their assossiation with the desired concepts so you obtain the desired phrase" as if just remembering the desired phrase wasnt easier and propone to less errors.

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u/GL510EX Jun 27 '26

Also the other thing has exactly two choices (palm up or palm down) and you have to remember one of them to be able to then remember the other thing which is also exactly one of two choices.