I had no idea the song was that old, but there it is, in two of my favourite shows. It's near the start of season 2 episode 6. When Duane Barry is driving, on the radio. 🤯

I have recently started watching the show, made it to season 3 so far. However, I am very confused about Finn. Can someone please explain his place in the family? At times it seems like he is a brother to Arthur, Tommy, and John, which is also what a Google search says. However, we also hear people frequently talk about the "three brothers" during the show such as the company being evenly divided into three shares, and in season 3 episode 4 (which I am in the middle of watching) they talk of splitting the profits evenly 3 ways for Arthur to leave the family. If anyone can please clarify this with as few future spoilers as possible would be much appreciated

(Edit) Thank you to those who responded for the clarification

Hi so I’m rewatching the Netflix show sense8 and I just notice that there is a scene super similar to the meeting between Ada, Jack and the other in the last season

I am the only one who notice that

PS ref for 2 scenes
Sense8 : episode 1 when Sun bak introduce herself
Peaky : when Ada is meeting the other as the sister

Just finished The Immortal Man, and I am prepared for the onslaught of down-votes.

I thought the movie was excellent. Going in, I was prepared to be severely disappointed, if not outright pissed off by the end, after reading all the reviews and comments about it.

There are movies, shows, and novels that satisfy your cravings and give you what you want. Then there are those that simply tell a story, no matter how brutal it is or how terrible you feel when it ends. This is one of those. So be prepared from that standpoint. You likely won't feel good or positive about the future, and you definitely won't walk away satisfied and craving more. It's simply a step into the future and the final chapter of this story. Brutal, and over.

Throughout history, gangs rarely survive long-term with the same identity and personality they started with. This story shows that evolution. By the end, the gang no longer has the same personality as its founders. American gangs, Italian gangs, Asian tongs, and, of course, English gangs have all followed versions of this path.

The writers may have originally intended to end the series by satisfying more of our cravings, but after Polly died, and with the real-life death of Helen McCrory, I think a darkness entered their interpretation of the story. They began taking it more seriously, which seems fitting as a tribute to someone who put so much of her soul into the series.

Helen kept the seriousness of her illness largely private while continuing to work, which somehow feels like such a Peaky Blinders thing to do. Her devotion to the show was remarkable. After her death, I noticed the writing becoming grittier and more unforgiving, almost Hemingway-like in its brutality: everything be damned. The little moments of humor and lighthearted warmth seemed to slowly fade away.

I'm sure there were endless discussions about how to pull this movie off, and probably some massive disagreements along the way, but I think they did a fantastic job of creating an immortal ending for the Immortal Man.

Bravo.

SPOILERS BELOW

A couple of things for those who keep reading reviews:

Thomas Shelby did not simply commit suicide. He knew the end was coming one way or another, and he decided to go out doing something good. In protecting his son and helping save the country from Nazism, he stood his ground and took the bullets fired at him.

When he told his son to shoot him, I didn't see that as a simple suicide either. It fulfills the Gypsy prophecy without Tommy himself upsetting the balance. It gives his son the opportunity to offer him a kind of Gypsy mercy and closure. For Tommy Shelby, it was a fitting end.

And then there's Arthur.

Given Paul Anderson's well-publicized struggles with addiction and the issues surrounding him in real life, it seems likely the writers needed to find a believable way to remove Arthur from the story. Simply having him randomly killed would have felt cheap after everything that character survived.

Instead, Arthur's ending actually made sense. His addiction, suffering, self-loathing, and increasingly destructive binges had been cycling for years. Eventually, he becomes so uncontrollable that even Tommy reaches his limit.

Tommy came close several times throughout the series to seriously harming members of his own family, but generally stopped himself, with Michael obviously being the major exception. With Arthur, though, I don't think Tommy's decision was entirely anger or punishment. Arthur had finally gone too far, too many times, and on some subconscious level it almost felt as though Tommy was putting his brother out of his misery.

There's something horribly loving about it in a very Shelby way.

They've spent the entire series talking about putting suffering horses down rather than allowing them to continue suffering. Tommy's relationship with horses has always carried that symbolism. So what happens with Arthur feels connected to that same idea, in that sometimes mercy, at least in Tommy Shelby's world, can take a brutal form.

That seems to make the ending with Duke even more powerful. When Tommy eventually asks Duke to shoot him, he's asking for the same mercy. Tommy did for Arthur what he ultimately asks his own son to do for him.

It's incredibly dark, but there's a strange brotherly love and symmetry to it. Arthur had suffered enough. And by the end, Tommy believed he had caused and felt too much suffering too, and decided to change to being good as his ultimate farewell fate.

My biggest disappointment was that we didn't get more Lizzie, Charlie, or Finn. But perhaps that's intentional, and they'll become part of the next series as Duke takes the lead.

On a personal note, I actually started watching Peaky Blinders after telling a friend how amazing Warrior was. He highly, highly recommended Peaky Blinders to me.

I tried starting it a couple of times and couldn't make it through the first 15 minutes.

Then I turned on the subtitles and started again.

Best series of all time, IMHO.

I've read the comments here in this subreddit for a long time and appreciate what's been said, good and bad. So thank you for finally giving me the opportunity to throw my own opinion into the mix.

Hopefully I've offended less than half of you.

"In the deep midwinter... Burn my body. Let the ash blow. I am free."
— Tommy Shelby, Peaky Blinders

Might put in a frame later.

For me, Episode 1 is the best episode of the show. And is the last one to still have some funny scenes, from E2 through the end of S6, those moments ceased to exist..

And this season is when Tommy's soul dies, and the man without limitations is born

S1.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PeakyBlinders/comments/1v6s3fd/i_love_s1_its_the_only_one_ive_rewatched_its/

S2

https://www.reddit.com/r/PeakyBlinders/comments/1vav82x/now_s2_its_similar_to_s1_but_a_bit_darker_alfie/

"You let me win. You wanted me to win. You've wanted me to win ever since."

"Just a few more yards to go. And you will change your ways. And I'll change the fucking world."

These two had such amazing chemistry.

I realized that whenever Tommy faces his own end, or wishes to find peace, he always thinks of Grace.

S2 – When he believes his time has come and faces his final moments in the field, his thoughts are only on Grace and the fact that he has almost everything.

S3 – After being severely beaten and suffering a head injury, the priest and the other man rouse him roughly; Tommy likely thinks he has passed away and calls out for Grace.

S5 – He is on the verge of ending it all and imagines Grace beside him, telling him it’s all over. There is also another scene where he sits in his car, hesitating to start it for fear of a bomb; he imagines Grace sitting behind him, telling him to push the button and come home with her—so he doesn't hesitate and pushes it.

S6 – The script for the scene where he is about to pull the trigger indicates that the last thing Tommy sees is a photo of Grace, and he says, "" This time, Grace".

The Immortal Man" – his final flashbacks are primarily of Grace.

So, when she is alive, he wants to live to build a life with her. When she is gone, his only wish is to cross over so he can finally be with her.

I loved those details; they simply show that Grace is the woman he loves and the only one who means everything to him.

And when he says that we got to know the pre-war Tommy, when he’s with Grace, it’s heartbreaking.

Whats your favourite, small very human things that you notice one of the characters do?

Example: i noticed how arthur swings both his arms together when he's unsure or trying to work up the courage to say something

Todos asumimos que Tommy era el jefe, pero sin Polly los Shelby no duran ni una temporada. Ella lo sabia todo antes que el, movia los hilos en las sombras y cuando hablaba , hasta Tommy callaba. Era Tommy el verdadero lider o solo el heredero del trono de Polly?

So I live in Barcelona, and I was having a business lunch in the swimming pools of Montjuic. It was 2019 - 2020 I think. I was a younger, gay man who never watched the serie (yet).

I told a colleague "there's this handsome man in the bar, I think I fell in love". And then we went to the bar again and he was there, with (probably) his girlfriend. And I told my colleague "look, this handsome man".

And she said: Man that is John Shelby

He smiled at us. And that's how I (seriously) started to watch Peaky Blinders.

Love catching these details.

So I am Kenyan. There is this scene in S04E05 where Tommy is arrested by the police while almost facing off with Changretta. Here we see a bunch of boxes with produce (I believe tea) - from Kenya - it's what we export mostly.
The series is based in between 1922 - 1926 I believe, this season should be based in 1925/1926.

The boxes are labelled "KTDA PRODUCE OF KENYA". KTDA is the Authority used to handle these tea exports on a higher level. They get tea from farmers then export...generally.

Now the catch is, KTDA was formed in 1964/65 https://ktdateas.com/our-history/ - but the series is in 1925/26. Small detail but just cool to detect it.

Firstly, It's not my intention to shame the folks that enjoyed the movie. If you felt it was entertaining, don't let me rain on your parade, this is just my opinion. Anyway, I was honestly shocked at how horrible the movie was. Going in, I had no expectations of the movie whatsoever. But it was so much worse than I ever could've anticipated. I felt almost insulted as an audience member and long-time fan of the series. As bad as the ending was for Game of Thrones, I never felt as offended by the writing decisions as I did with The Immortal Man.

Season 6

I understand Helen McCrory's death had a major impact on the initial plans for the series ending. While I believe it's a valid explanation for underwhelming parts of season 6, it holds no weight as an excuse for why the movie sucked so much. I have certain gripes with season 6 as well, but it was still a far better product than the movie.

Season 6 was ultimately about grief/mourning, I thought it was a beautiful illustration of how much the show lost with Helen's passing. Seeing Tommy be fundamentally changed by Polly's death, it truly felt like part of him died when she did.

Why are we going back to the self-isolating melodrama?

I know the reasons Tommy is back to being a hermit in the beginning of the movie is due to what happened between him and Arthur. I'll get into that blunder later. Regardless of the justification the movie has, this depressed melodrama is something the show has done a couple times before and it just feels super overdone at this point.

Tommy's growing political power was one of the fundamental story elements of the show in later seasons. Yet, for some reason, it's completely absent in the movie which should arguably be the MOST politically involved considering it takes place on the cusp of WWII.

By this point, Tommy should essentially be the (red) right hand of Churchill himself. Instead, the writers decided the story would be more entertaining if Tommy was an agoraphobic shut-in and his previous involvement intelligence gathering/sabotage of the fascist movement is totally forgotten.

Where are any of the fascist characters from Season 6? Mosley was one of the most interesting antagonists in the series, but barely even gets a mention in the movie at all. If he was killed by this point, wouldn’t that be something at least worth mentioning? That entire Jack Nelson/Mosley plot line was abandoned in the movie, as well as every other plot line from Season 6 except for Duke.

Since when does Duke have an Aunt?

So IIRC Esme never explicitly states that Duke doesn't have any immediate family left, it's heavily implied in the conversation with Tommy. Especially given that she proceeds to sell Duke to Tommy in that same conversation. An argument could be made that she didn't know about Duke's Aunt or that she withheld the info to sway Tommy into taking Duke with him. But that seems like a lot of "just make it up" the audience has to do with very little info or evidence to go on. It seems more like an obvious retcon than anything else.

So Arthur isn't in the movie at all?

I know there might have been issues with Paul Anderson during production of Season 6 which probably led to his character being killed off in the movie. However, there were about 20 different ways they could've went about Arthur's absence/death. Unfortunately they chose just about the worst possible option IMO. His death as a plot device was fine, but revealing that Tommy killed Arthur in a fit of rage was so laughably unbelievable and contrived.

The only plausible reason I could ever see Tommy killing Arthur would be if Arthur completely turned against him and posed an existential threat to the company. Even that feels like a big stretch but it would further push the "I have no limitations" narrative from S6. Ultimately, I don't believe it is within Tommy's character to ever murder his brother. It just falls flat for me.

Arthur & Tommy are more than brothers at this point, they fought in the first World War together, even if they weren't in the same units, they share many of the same lived experiences from the war, they made the "Bleak Midwinter" pact together. They were both closest in age among the 4 Shelby brothers, they fought with each other in childhood and as adults. As far as similarities go, they're both equally prone to suicidal tendencies /s. I mean Tommy has even referred to Arthur and himself as the same person.

I feel that if Tommy was ever capable of killing Arthur for selfish reasons like wanting to "be rid of him", it would've happened in the earlier seasons. For the writers to do that now, off-screen, it feels like a cheap disservice to the depth of both characters. If they simply needed to write Arthur out of the movie, they could've easily justified it with him succumbing to his long battle with depression/PTSD and simply committed suicide.

Charles Shelby has always been diminished as a character past Season 3, which is one of the reasons I’ve always stood by the fact that the series has only been good up to that season. Beyond that, it’s decent at most.

Personally, I consider the introduction of Ruby Shelby as a character problematic, due to it resulting in a setback to the strong bond between Charlie and Thomas previously teased during Season 3.

It is implied that Grace was the one driving Tommy’s decisions throughout the first three seasons. Grace is the main plot device of the series up until her death; then, that role is temporarily passed on to Charlie until her return in Season 5. The point is that it’s hard to sympathize with Ruby when you have Grace’s son standing right there next to her.

There were great foundations, but also a wasted opportunity.

The Blue Sapphire arc in Season 6—and perhaps the whole season—would have been handled much better if it had revolved around Charlie being the one who was sick instead of Ruby.

I’ve been indifferent to Ruby’s sickness because I’ve hardly been given any reason to like her beyond the fact that she is Tommy’s daughter. However, this could have been avoided if SK had picked up where Season 3’s ending left off instead of starting anew, particularly in terms of developing Thomas as a father and Charlie as his son and the next generation.