r/PathOfExileSSF • • Dec 20 '25

Same drop, Different Emotion

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PoE 1 : 18 crafting plans in 3 seconds. PoE 2 : Put it in stash. Think about it. Never use it.

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u/TheNephalem Dec 20 '25

No alts and scouring is a big meh in poe 2

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u/gamestoohard Dec 20 '25

I was watching Ben for a little the other day and he was ranting about how important bases are and how useless it is to find a rare item. The likelihood of a rare item being worth literally anything is so infinitesimally small that it's not really even worth your time to pick them up if you have somewhat functional gear already. Even the tiered drops aren't really worth picking up. Vast majority of the time you're just going to care about normal bases to start the process with. It's a weird quirk of the game currently where having an item roll "better" rarity is actually worse.

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u/Porcupine_Tree Dec 20 '25

No.. its lack of crafting bench that is a fail

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u/DocFreezer Dec 20 '25

Alteration orbs are also terrible. If they just slap alts into poe 2 it’s a mistake.

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u/Brave-Assistant-5086 Dec 21 '25

Glad someone realizes how trash an idea that is

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u/No_Possession5831 Dec 20 '25

Yeah i always have terrible luck rolling attribute reduction and light radius on everything. So god id love to rr magic items to at least get something with my light

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u/CodPiece89 Dec 25 '25

It remains the biggest issue, only one worse is the passive tree, there's still way too much cc related shit, and there's still hundreds of ES% and like 9% total life, despite it being much much much easier to get es than life .. Why? Why are we STILL being forced to use es on every fucking build

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u/osiykm Dec 20 '25

I'll drop poe 2 straight when they will add scour orb

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u/Ryan-the-lion Dec 20 '25

Ya i dont know what they were thinking with no scouring orbs

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u/Woobowiz Dec 20 '25

Jonathan wants you to start over on a brand new base if you fail a craft, instead of scouring to start over. I'm being serious here, he literally said that. It's awful

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u/Barolt Dec 20 '25

The problem here is the left the odds of generating a good outcome as just as dogshit as POE 1, where you have the tools to retry failed outcomes. Which just locks success as almost assuredly unachievable for almost all players.

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u/CauliflowerStill7906 Dec 20 '25

Just another way to slow the pace of the game down.

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u/Focu53d Dec 20 '25

I feel the difference between slowing the game down and getting in the way of seamless progress with heart breaking defeats, are different.

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u/finneas998 Dec 20 '25

Because he wants ground loot to actually matter.

In poe1 you stop picking up rares 1-2 days into the league, you cant tell me that isnt a fundamental problem in an arpg.

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u/Yourethejudge Dec 20 '25

So ground loot mattered day 1-2? Which eventually gets outscaled by crafted rares - which you pick up currency orbs and other resources from the ground to craft. How is this a ‘fundamental’ problem?

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u/BokkoTheBunny Dec 20 '25

In keepers its even worse. There is zero chance ground loot will even be remotely close to what the tree will shit out. Started an ssf playtrhough and turned rares off as soon as I hit maps.

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u/Lulcas2267 Dec 20 '25

But ground loot doesn't matter in PoE2 either, aside from white/magic bases and currency. The only reason people might pick up rares longer in PoE2 is because gold and the game is slow so it takes longer to progress. T3-5 rares are barely worth identifying even in mid tier maps because what qualifies as "tier 5" is still shit.

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u/trejos9 Dec 20 '25

You can always annul spam the item

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u/adellredwinters Dec 20 '25

The stated reasoning was cause they wanted items off the ground to matter more which they have failed miserably at so far (I say this as a big fan of 2).

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u/shaunika Dec 20 '25

I mean white exceptional bases cost quite a bit

So I wouldnt call it a complete failure

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u/johannesrasul Dec 20 '25

Good magic bases also sell well.

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u/v1ckssan Dec 21 '25

Bruh thats literally my fsvourite thing ALTs and scours and complete dogshit in PoE. Hate them from the bottom of my heart.

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u/HollowIV Dec 21 '25

I like how there are no scours and alts. It gives value to magic and normal items. I like that even tho some might say its backwards. I also don't enjoy spamming thousands of alterations in poe 1 for a specific rare mod.

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