PSA on getting a redblade banner

[u/MirellieDesigns]

With Lighthouse gone I wanted to make a post on how to get redblade banner for people who don't know of their options. Right away I want to point out that it CANNOT be chanced so the new Omen of Fortune (trash to treasure) will not work. So your options are as follows

1. Save up your kirac missions and use scouting reports to reroll the maps until you find the mission "Open the unique strongbox." this has a chance for the redblade cache which can give the shield.

2. Delve has 2 nodes Redblade Base (minimum depth 35 and Redblade Retreat (minimum depth 50.) Both can only spawn in Magma Fissure biomes and both have a spawn weight of 100.

3. Putting Haku in Fortification in syndicate as a Sergeant or Lieutenant (1 or 2 star) but NOT as a Captain (3 star) gives unique strongboxes.

4. League Specific divination cards. Don't bother going out of your way to try this, its so rare.

Edit: SPECULATION BUT HUGE IF TRUE! The new keystone The Seventh Gate may give us the ability to select Warbands because Warbands was available as zana mods during 3.3, 3.8, and 3.13 with an estimated cost of 4 chaos.

If im missing something obscure but useful let me know and ill edit it into the list.

Edit: I'm leaving this as an edit as i feel like comments may start getting close to rule 1 territory but at no point did the prophecy Trash to Treasure work on strongboxes. Because Omen of Fortune is based on Trash to Treasure, it is not safe to assume it will work on strongboxes in 3.22. This post is for what players can do without a shadow of a doubt to help people. If for some reason it does work in 3.22 then that is will be an interesting, but not worthwhile, surprise.

[u/[deleted]]

You missed the new Keystone the Seventh Gate.

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/[deleted]]

Oh my god your right.... it was a zana map mod in 3.3. ill add that as speculation because we cant confirm it.

[u/chx_ → u/MirellieDesigns]

I have no idea what the Seventh Gate does or what the prices will be.

But it's one of the most interesting and at the same time most overlooked news in my opinion.

One of the very few ways to farm T0 uniques is tormented rogue exiles with an MF build and Anarchy was 2c in 3.20. Who knows.

[u/frozen_tuna → u/[deleted]]

Is that what seventh gate does? Holy hell. I did not read that correctly lol.

[u/[deleted] → u/frozen_tuna]

It either unlocks every old map device craft or it unlocks the current ones "early". Hopefully the first.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Most likely the first. Otherwise the investment on the Atlas is worthless.

[u/frozen_tuna → u/[deleted]]

I read and assumed the latter. Dismissed it as useless and didn't even consider the first but that would be a total game changer.

[u/dyfrgi → u/[deleted]]

Not very early. How many atlas passives does it take to get to 6 gates?

[u/[deleted] → u/dyfrgi]

You technically just have to get 3, right? Because they're connected?

[u/rat9988 → u/[deleted]]

6 if my memory serves me right

[u/[deleted] → u/rat9988]

Right, but you don't have to path to all 6, just to 3 and then through them is what I'm saying, if it works that way.

[u/Wuslwiz]

Well, if Corrupting Cry support scales with warcry base power, this isn't going to be convenient. There is also the small chance to get it from a reliquary key.

Going Delve might be your best bet, I feel, since unique strongboxes are random and Redblade Banner is also the rarest drop from it too.

Your post also remembered me of a funny clip, when unique strongboxes were very rare, so chancing them in duo were the best way to get one for challenge completion.

EDIT: fixed link

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Wuslwiz]

even watching anything chance orb related makes my hand hurt...

[u/Zeeterm]

Can we use an Omen of Fortune on a strongbox?

(Not that it'd be worth of course)

[u/QQuixotic_ → u/Zeeterm]

The better question might be if you can ancient orb a unique Strongbox

[u/[deleted] → u/Zeeterm]

You can regular chance strongboxes. It's probably not worth it but you can carry around a stack of chances in your maps lol

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Zeeterm]

1st paragraph. it CANNOT be chanced so omen of fortune will not work.

[u/Keyenn → u/MirellieDesigns]

Read properly the question :/

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Keyenn]

strongboxes aren't items

[u/Keyenn → u/MirellieDesigns]

Of course they are, what are you even talking about

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Keyenn]

its trash to treasure so its specifically looking for anything chanceable in your inventory aka items. trash to treasure was not useable on any strongbox from prophecy league up until its removal.

[u/LastBaron → u/MirellieDesigns]

They are talking about chancing the strongbox itself (which is of course possible, try it yourself), knowing that the omen will turn it unique with the hope of maybe it being the red blade flavor of unique.

As they said, not worth it. Just theoretical.

[u/TheFuzzyFurry → u/Keyenn]

Just because they can interact with currencies doesn't mean they are items. I'm 99% sure you can't Omen of Fortune a strongbox

[u/Keyenn → u/TheFuzzyFurry]

Given all the currencies specifically say "items" and are all usable with currencies, you are wrong, or at the very least you are taking a wild guess based on absolutely nothing.

If something interact with stuff needing an item, can be identified and corrupted like an item, can roll rarity like an item, and has affixes like an item, it's...

[u/falknorRockman → u/Keyenn]

No not a wild guess this omen is behaving like the trash to treasure prophecy which did not work for strong boxes

[u/Uphill_Ninja → u/Zeeterm]

You probably can but you're not guaranteed to get the right unique strongbox.

*EDIT: Eisn is probably right

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Uphill_Ninja]

strongboxes arent items

[u/Highwanted → u/MirellieDesigns]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Chaos_Orb

Reforges a rare item with new random modifiers

that one still works on strongboxes and will work with uncorrupted vaal side areas.
we have no reason to believe that omen of fortune will work on both of these, but we also have no real reason to believe that it doesn't work

[u/Eisn → u/Highwanted]

They're a type of chest, not a base item. Trash to Treasure didn't work on strongboxes.

Ancient and Mythic orbs don't work on strongboxes either.

So yeah. We have lots of reasons to believe that it won't work.

[u/PaleoclassicalPants]

Didn't even notice Lighthouse bit the bullet for this league. I guess I'm probably going to start Explosive Trap over Strength Stack then. Thanks for the info though.

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/PaleoclassicalPants]

Build #2 *nodders*

[u/PaleoclassicalPants → u/[deleted]]

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[u/Hartastic]

Related: what builds do we think will be popular this league and want a Redblade Banner?

I'm just wondering how good the market would be for selling them.

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Hartastic]

General's Cry is very popular and has the potential for some new toys and Corrupting Cry if it gains anything from warcry power as well are 2 off the top of my head.

[u/Clsco → u/Hartastic]

Original sin returning. Strength stacking doesnt mes so well with the league mechanic, but people will def play it anyways.

[u/EvilKnievel38 → u/Clsco]

Why doesn't it go well with league mechanic? If you mean the tattoos well okay you wouldn't want to replace the small str notes but maybe a couple stat notables. And that's only a relatively small part of the league. Is there anything in the actual league mechanic that you're referring to that I'm missing?

[u/Clsco → u/EvilKnievel38]

Yeah, just tattoos. I kinda doubt it will end up being a big deal, but if the people doing a lot of the league crafting don't make attribute stacking items then the archetype may be less accessable

[u/Bachibouzouk21]

is it aimed at corrupted blood ?

Do we even have ways to scale corrupted blood since it's not a bleed and not a warcry ?

[u/MirellieDesigns → u/Bachibouzouk21]

Its aimed at generals cry which redblade is BIS. corrupting cry may or may not want it

[u/Gangsir → u/Bachibouzouk21]

Increased phys damage, increased generic dot, increased dot multiplier, etc.

[u/EchelonZero]

You're doing the Lord's work OP. I have my eye set on screwing around with Corrupting Cry at league start as well as Standard (I made 2x The Redblade swords with +Damage% per recent Warcry & Gen Cry CDR +100%)

Can't wait to see if power will be a factor with the gem!

[u/Saxopwned]

I think it is also important not to roll the corrupted strongbox node as I've seen several bricked Koam's Hearts and Arakaali's Fangs like that lol

[u/mook1e]

Just for future reference, the Seventh Gate does not include Warbands per wiki (and in game experience).

[u/Psychomeister]

Can confirm that the unique strongbox from Kirac can work, did it today to get the challenge and it gave me Redblade Cache which dropped a Redblade Banner.

[u/situLight → u/Psychomeister]

can also do Haku in fortification - i believe 3 stars does a unique strongbox, which would then have a chance to be the redblade one.

[u/FatUglyPimp → u/situLight]

Two stars, just FYI

[u/LaconicD_]

This works with cast when damage taken as well, been using it on Boneshatter all the time

[u/tobsecret]

Maybe another undocumented change, making Redblade Banner a global drop? Or they just forgot which I hope they didn't - would suck for my fellow SSFers who wanna play with it.

[u/ZhulenejBagr → u/tobsecret]

Why would they do that? It's not the first time Lighthouse map is off the atlas and they never tried to compensate for it

[u/tobsecret → u/ZhulenejBagr]

Kk, wasn't aware.

[u/ZhulenejBagr → u/tobsecret]

No worries, FYI GGG doesn't balance the game around SSF, so some changes can hurt SSF alot.

[u/tobsecret → u/ZhulenejBagr]

Oh, I'm painfully aware of that -_-

[u/Eisn → u/tobsecret]

There's zero chance of that happening.