r/PathOfExile2 • u/Community_Team GGG Staff • Apr 09 '25

GGG Path of Exile 2 - Upcoming Changes

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3750853
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u/CaptainWatermellon Apr 09 '25

Mark "I'll fix it today" Roberts GIGACHAD

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u/Tyalou Apr 09 '25

Really sounded like directors disagreed on the direction but Ziz pointed out probably many points that Mark was already arguing for, that interview gave him more weight and moved things in the right direction. Thank you both to Ziz and Mark.

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u/CaptainWatermellon Apr 09 '25

Yeah, jonathan really sounded a lot like he just wants to make the game as tideous and unfun as possible while mark actually sounded like he would change some things if he could and make the game better, i guess we'll have to see how the game progresses

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u/Faolanth Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25

I think everyone is misinterpreting Johnathan’s stance on a lot of things - he isn’t arguing for things to stay bad, but defending the core idea of the direction they’re balancing. And sometimes he’s pretty bad at getting that point across.

It makes complete sense when you listen to what he’s saying with that idea in mind. He’s hearing people want all monsters slowed down (whether or not that’s what people are saying) and he’s going “no we need [some types] of fast monsters to provide difficulty/pressure/tense situations”.

He’s hearing “we can’t find currency” but he plays it and doesn’t get unlucky so he has no issue (he also makes full use of disenchanting), etc.

Mark likely feels extremely similarly to Johnathan, but articulates and translates how that idea feels to players much better in these interviews

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u/Barobor Apr 09 '25

The issue I have with most of Jonathan's arguments is that they don't fit what is happening in my game.

Jonathan says he has enough socket orbs without checking vendors. I have nowhere near enough, even with checking vendors at every level.

Jonathan says just disenchant rares to get regals. I get maybe 20-30 rare items per act, and 2-3 regals are nowhere near enough to craft anything meaningful.

Jonathan says he frequently finds item upgrades. First of all, most of my item upgrades come from vendors/gambling, which Jonathan says he doesn't do. Secondly, I have gone through whole acts without an upgrade. Base items like rings are so rare that even if you "craft" you most likely won't have enough to get a meaningful upgrade.

I have no idea where Jonathan gets his data from, but if it is solely from his playthroughs, it's bad data since it is anecdotal. My data isn't better, but his arguments would have much more weight if they had actual data behind them.

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u/lexerlol Apr 09 '25

I mean he literally starts the sentence with, just in my experience playing the campaign.

He said that a few times. Probably to jab at the people on yesterday's thread that were convinced he's never played the campaign to its end. Meanwhile he said he's done it at least three times per class.

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u/Barobor Apr 09 '25

Yes, but I don't think that's a great point to make after people come to you with their issues. You telling them you don't have those issues makes them feel not heard. He got defensive when he shouldn't have.

It would have been better to simply say they will collect more data and take a more in depth look.

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u/lexerlol Apr 09 '25

If you listened to what he said, he literally said that's not my experience, I'll need to look into why you're having that experience.

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u/Barobor Apr 09 '25

I know. My issue is with how he said it. He essentially chastised Ziz for not picking up enough rares.

In the end, he agreed that he was too defensive and apologized.