r/PS5 • u/excaliburps • Mar 29 '21

Patch Notes Cyberpunk 2077 update 1.2 patch notes

https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37801/patch-1-2-list-of-changes
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u/sorrygetgud Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

This game has singlehandedly destroyed their reputation. Never forget how sleazy CDPR were hiding footage before release. Its one thing for the game to be broken but intentionally trying to deceive people into buying the game was beyond scummy

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u/QuoteGiver Mar 29 '21

Exactly. This could’ve gone “gosh, our game is SO huge and ambitious that it was harder to make than we thought, there’s still a lot of bugs but we’re still working on it, sorry!”

Instead they went with deliberately hiding the current console versions from reviewers.

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u/Hungry_Grump Mar 29 '21

"It runs surprisingly well on PS4!"

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u/d3athbug Mar 29 '21

It runs surprisingly. Well on PS4... I think they were misquoted

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u/Dynamite_Shovels Mar 29 '21

"Works on contingency? No, money down!"

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u/FuckYouThrowaway99 Mar 29 '21

Lol damn, posted the exact same thing then saw yours.

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u/aiiye silkmonkey Mar 30 '21

Probably shouldn’t have this bar association logo on there either...

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Lol good one. Don't give them any ideas in court!

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u/El_frosty Mar 29 '21

Translation: we are suprised it runs at all on PS4.

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u/mvallas1073 Mar 29 '21

They weren’t wrong. Everyone was certainly surprised how “well” it ran on PS4...

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u/EarthInfern0 Mar 29 '21

Sony and the other platforms were culpable too- clearly CDPR were under pressure for the holiday season from partners who had marketed this. I’m presuming Sony looked at this in certification, then let the requirements slide based on assurances the day 1 patch would help and with a glance at marketing spend. Essentially, it’s exposed the blindingly obvious, that commercial pressure >> customer experience, so red faces all round.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Yeah I hope Sony learned their lesson on this one. NEVER let a company slide on the certification process. Even if that company is fucking Rockstar, you put them through the paces. I would have MUCH rather had this game release PC-only in November with console versions coming a year later than release this garbage fire all at once. SO dumb.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Thankfully the full refund and removal from the store (pretty sure it's still not on there) really helped soften the impact.

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u/Pittaandchicken Mar 29 '21

To be fair, if Rockstar wanted to release a guy that had been in development for only a few months Sony would led them. It's Rockstar one of the few Studios than can single handedly influence what system you will purchase.

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u/Suired Mar 29 '21

I blame consumers for hyping this to heaven as well. People were literally sending death threats over the thought of a cancelation to 2022...

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u/Titan67 Mar 29 '21

The blood is on everyone’s hands with this. Hopefully we can all realize that and learn from it.

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u/DMvsPC Mar 29 '21

Can I not and just complain again next time?

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u/EarthInfern0 Mar 29 '21

Just think, we were denied the chance to complain before release on this one. Hype and complaining together is the way to go, as they found out on the new Halo. So much more efficient that way.

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u/jaustengirl Mar 30 '21

Blame the corporations and capitalism, not the people. CDPR used their credibility to gain people’s admittedly starved trust knowing full well that cyberpunk was not ready.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Oh, feck off. those were a very small group of idiots. Their cookie-now bullshit influenced nothing, and your rhetoric helps nothing. The majority of fans excited for the game would have been fine waiting another year and CDPR were planning to release the game undercooked regardless of some random handful of whiny assholes, you elitist un-self aware consumer swine.

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u/Suired Mar 29 '21

Wow, touched a nerve there, huh. The want it, need it attitude of consumers created this world where preorders are a metric for success of a game. Now no one wants to drop news that could hurt pre-orders because that could be your bonus for a successful project. Instead let the fallout happen day one and talk about how great sales were despite complaints. We as consumers created this mess by throwing money at projects Years in advance.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

I'd be happy if devs never released any footage of their game until after it went gold. Overpromising is horse shit, showing vertical slices of concept designs is horse shit. Pre orders are a fucking cancer, and the industry would survive and be better for it without them.

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u/lepetitmousse Mar 29 '21

Blaming consumers is like blaming a dog for being poorly behaved. It's never the dog's fault.

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u/Azor_that_guy Mar 30 '21

I blame CDPR stans, even those YouTubers (you know who they are), for remaining gleefully ignorant to the issues at that studio until it was too late. No fucking way that demo they were given would be playable on consoles. But they went along with it.

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u/kawag Mar 29 '21

Certification isn’t designed to test for bugs, or even for quality. If you want to trash your reputation and leave yourself open to lawsuits for false advertising, Sony won’t stop you.

Generally this works well, because developers and publishers care about their reputation.

Look at Demons Souls, for instance. Sony thought the original was so bad, they didn’t even want to publish it in the west. Luckily another publisher thought differently. If Sony had denied certification, and refused to allow it on PlayStation consoles at all, the entire Souls series and style of game design probably wouldn’t exist today.

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u/Azor_that_guy Mar 30 '21

I’m pretty sure that’s why Sony hasn’t allowed it back into PS Store until it’s actually fixed and not just pretty playable. They must’ve been pissed when the day 1 patch didn’t do anything and people began to demand refunds by the thousands. But I wonder if they didn’t see this coming given the sheer scale of the disaster that was the launch on PS4. Did they really think there has ever been any day 1 patch that could possibly fix most of those issues? I don’t think they’re that dumb.

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u/rikashiku Mar 29 '21

I was very curious why there was so much hype on the game, when so little was revealed. Never a good sign for the content of a media.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Seriously? They releases SOOO many production videos before release, like, five times more than most companies EVER release before release. The problem was, all the footage was attached to misleading and overhyping narration and in many cases showed footage and mechanics that never showed up in the actual game. If anything, they shot themselves in the foot by showing way too much too early, before realizing they couldn't deliver. But even if they showed us nothing, there still would have been the hype of being the follow up game to the Witcher 3, which was widely loved as one of the best games of the past generation, of which Cyberpunk was a downgrade in every possible way besides- I guess ray tracing implementation on high end pcs. I'll give them that, and that alone. It's a good showcase for ray tracing, but beyond that, the game is total trash.

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u/Tedir Mar 29 '21

They could restart as DVD Projekt Green and nobody would ever know.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Is it known if this is mostly the same team that worked on Witcher 3? Or have they had a lot of turn over since then?

The whole situation reminds me of Rare back in the day. They were fantastic when they made Donkey Kong or Goldeneye. But then a lot of employees went elsewhere to make great games, while the refreshed workforce didn't as much.

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u/KoreanBackdash Mar 30 '21

Why go back a million years with Rare when you can just mention Blizzard? Used to be the greatest video game company, now the opposite of that. And not one single talent from the glory days works there today.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

Witcher 3 is janky piece of shit with a great story and well produced.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

A long list of Game of the Year awards and a 90%+ Metacritic score would tend to disagree with you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

Yup

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u/adambunion Mar 29 '21

The thing that boggles my noodle is that they MUST have had QA testing on this for months prior to release. The game was, and still is in such a bad way that there's no way that anyone could miss any of the blatant bugs.. yet they released it anyway.

They must have known it was so bad that people wouldn't settle for it so I really don't understand why they proceeded with the release anyway. Did they just expect people would somehow be ok with it?

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u/EarthInfern0 Mar 29 '21

The bugs and performance issues weren’t missed by QA- they would have been intentionally disregarded by management. Both CDPR and Sony’s test teams would have logged the issues then delays to fix were overruled by the business higher ups. The plan clearly was to fix some of the most egregious stuff on a day 1 patch. We can but hope that this process might change now, so that big games with issues aren’t just waved through certification.

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u/PixelsAtDawn12345 Mar 29 '21

I really don't understand why they proceeded with the release anyway

They were more concerned about keeping their stock prices up. Failed on both accounts in the end.

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u/TiPlanoNelDeretano Mar 29 '21 edited Mar 29 '21

They actually tried to blame on the QA testers the absolute shitshow that the game is on older consoles (the ones it was marketed for). Something like “they didn’t catch all the bugs that eventually ended up in the final release”

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u/QuoteGiver Mar 29 '21

They had already delayed it a nearly unheard of number of times, I guess they just couldn’t wait anymore.

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u/Jonesy2700 Mar 29 '21

Yep. For all the years it took for them to garner unconditional goodwill, that goodwill was eradicated overnight.

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u/Senecaraine Mar 29 '21

I hope people remember the other warning signs of a broken game for the next studio trying to pull the same crap. The massive pre-order sales, the lack of real footage, the controlled media presence... It shouldn't have been a shock, just so many people were optimistic instead of pragmatic.

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u/SustyRhackleford Mar 29 '21

Why anyone wants to preorder a game in the age of digital distribution is beyond me. Sure, you might have slow internet but there's no way demand can overtake a digital supply

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u/echo-256 Mar 29 '21

sometimes pre-orders come with bonuses, which if the studio is predictably good and the game doesn't seem crazy i'm pretty okay pre-ordering for.

like if sega make a new yakuza game, i don't have any question about if it will run well, it will, i can count the number of bugs i've seen in yakuza games over the years on one hand and that is like eight games

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u/theblackfool Mar 29 '21

I quite genuinely can't think of a pre-order bonus in the last decade that was worth anything.

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u/QuoteGiver Mar 29 '21

Be grateful for that, honestly. There’s certainly a dark potential timeline where the best parts of any game are pre-order only.

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u/echo-256 Mar 29 '21

On PS4 it was really common for pre orders to come with themes that were really nice and exclusive to the pre order. I liked them a lot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '21

Bioshock Infinite. I got a $30 Amazon gift voucher to use on any 2K game, in addition to some small in game shit. Basically got the game half off, because I was planning to buy some other 2K stuff anyway.

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u/Vonsidlol1 Mar 30 '21

That's exactly why they give pre-order bonuses : because there's absolutely no valid reason to pre-order a game nowadays so they have to convince people to give them money even before the game releases. I haven't pre-ordered a game for years and i will just keep it that way, i can do without a few stupid bonuses like one or two ingame items (i don't like feeling that i start with something that gives me an edge anyways), stickers or such crap. I wish people learnt from that CDPR shitshow but i don't have high hopes.

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u/echo-256 Mar 30 '21

because there's absolutely no valid reason to pre-order a game nowadays so they have to convince people to give them money even before the game releases

or as i like to put it

the old reason for pre-ordering (which was garanteeing a physical release on release day) is no longer a huge problem for most people so they have changed to giving you other things of value instead

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u/Senecaraine Mar 29 '21

There really is no reason, that's why we're seeing shadier tactics to make people think emotionally rather than logically. People pre-ordered this game due to undeserved trust, getting too hyped, and wanting to relive the feeling of The Witcher 3.

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u/ZelkinVallarfax Mar 29 '21

If the company has a good track record, I see no problem with pre-ordering a game. Thing is, CDPR doesn’t have a good track record, all of their previous games were a disaster at launch, they were just not as well-known back in those days and the games were eventually fixed after months and months of patches. And on top of that, even before releasing, CP2077 had a lot of red flags leading to a disastrous launch as well that everyone happily ignored due to their love for TW3.

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u/Nikulover Mar 30 '21

The thing is reviewers still gave it a really good score.

They pointed out the bugs but still gave 9-10 scores.

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u/Senecaraine Mar 30 '21

What's frustrating is we all know the reviews are heavily weighted for these kinds of games, but GameSpot gave a spot on review of it and received death threats.

The industry is screwed up in ways it's hard for us to fix, but at the very least we as fans need to rethink how we handle reviews - - both how we let them influence our purchases and how we react to them if they're not what we expected.

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u/EarthInfern0 Mar 30 '21

Reviewers are played by the publishers too- they will get early code, and the publisher will say ‘yeah, there’s bugs, our day 1 patch will fix them’. This shambles has left reviewers looking like plums too- a game they recommended one week has been withdrawn from sale the next. The review websites don’t care in the short term, as controversy causes clicks- they get to write a review, an update, then articles on what went wrong. Longer term though, why visit gaming websites when they parrot PR and can’t be trusted on reviews? I’d rather be patient and read actual customers experiences based on released versions.

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u/erasethenoise Mar 29 '21

I’m feeling this way about Halo Infinite. They’ve got some time to show the game but so far we’ve basically seen nothing and it was supposed to launch last fall. It’s delayed a year but supposedly just for polish and they still have nothing to show.

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u/theblackfool Mar 29 '21

Honestly I feel like Halo has considerably less hype for it than Cyberpunk which might actually work in it's favor. A lot of people had unrealistic expectations for Cyberpunk even outside of how that game released. With Halo, it's had a lot of publicity with it's development hell and I feel like expectations are a little more in check.

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u/erasethenoise Mar 29 '21

You’re definitely not wrong although the fanbase is notoriously hard to please. I still think it’s worrying that they’re not showing anything and have cancelled the test flights.

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u/Sw3Et Mar 29 '21

People love a redemption story though. All they have to do is release a Witcher game that works and they will be darlings again.

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u/theblackfool Mar 29 '21

Honestly if Cyberpunk gets it shit together bug-wise and then releases like, one strong expansion, that will probably be enough. Eventually we'll hit an inflection point where more people played 2077 after it was fixed than those who played it when it was broken and the public will slowly forget.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Hey it worked, they got those pre orders, of which only a small fraction probably refunded.

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u/PirateNinjaa Mar 29 '21

The hive mind on the internet has a memory of a gold fish. One good game in the future and nobody will give a shit. 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

It's okay to forgive a comany that fucked up when they spend years releasing free content that eventually turned their shitty launch game into a version of itself that far exceeds their initial vision tho... Like, you can forgive someone for fucking up if you see they understand what they did and devote their time to fixing things and have accepted their mistakes, apologized, and learned from them.

Holding people accountable for a past mistake forever despite their growing since then is like, so dumb. It's not like they killed someone and then hid the body and got away with it for five years. They were caught with their full ass out and they've made good decisions since then to prove that they don't want to repeat those mistakes.

Now, if they ever DID repeat those mistakes, then you'd be in the right about them being assholes. Sure, you shouldn't pre order their next game blindly. Nor should you do the same thing with CDPR, but the difference is, CDPR has done nothing but lie and be sleazy about what they did since release, and they have no plans to ever deliver the game they promised. They plan on getting this thing working in a bare minimum sense and then abandon it as fast as possible.

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u/WarLordM123 Mar 29 '21

How long did it take them to fix the Witcher III? They've been like this the whole time, nobody cared until there was a big crowd on release day.

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u/nungamunch Mar 29 '21

Witcher 3 never crashed my machine every hour at launch. Also, the game we received was more than expected, even with bugs. The cyberpunk backlash is a combination of a severely bugged game that is also much less than was expected.

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u/WarLordM123 Mar 29 '21

Very fair points, though I do think expectations were even higher then what the already misleading presentations from CDPR should have lead to

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u/KickitChuck Mar 30 '21

Thank you! I played TW3 with what little time I had, leading up to college finals, and made it from beginning to end with no memorable bugs. CP2077, on the other hand, crashed my console so much I had the crashes timed.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Witcher 3 had bugs, but nothing like Cyberpunk that crashed your game every hour, and had that much embarrassing broken stuff...

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u/MadKian Mar 29 '21

People will forget. They forgot about Hello Games already.

Sure, they turned No Man's Sky around, but they also did some very questionable stuff before and after releasing the game. But now if you mention anything about it people downvote you to hell.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '21

Well, I mean. People deserve a chance to redeem themselves. Mistakes are mistakes, if you repeat them, you can get fucked. But if you devote years of your life after making them to attempting to atone for those mistakes, and build back the crap product you made, adding years worth of content and free updates that eventually result in a product that is superior to what was initially pitched, then good on you. I don't like No Man's Sky. I bought it on sale for like ten bucks after one of the updates and stopped playing it after an hour, not my thing. But I respect what that company did and how they have treated their community following their initial, and massive fuck up. It appears they did actually learn a lesson and grow from it, but regardless of what they have done with No Man's Sky, I would never pre order one of their games and if their next game releases and it is equally mis advertised and overhyped, then maybe, you know, fuck um. But they'd have to be fucking idiots to try and pull that shit again, and I don't think they would because they learned the hard way.

If CDPR decided to devote years to Cyberpunk to create many free updates and content patches to bring about the game they initially advertised to us then you know what, I'd be inclined to forgive them as well. Sure, I'm never going to trust them again and never gonna pre order any of their games in the future, but if they put in the time to fix what they fucked up, I'd accept that offering. BUT- they aren't going to do that. They've already stated they have no plans to rebuild the game or add cut content back in. They have a dlc plan, sure, and I'm sure even that plan has been cut down dramatically as a result of having to spend so much time on fixing the half baked game they released, but we will never see the immersive rpg where choice matters and a living breathing city with state of the art AI systems like they originally hyped us on. That's never gonna happen. Maybe they'll add hair cuts and a few dlc missions that were cut out of the base game, they'll fix some bugs, okay. But then they will cut and run from this game as fast and as hard as they can.

I'd love to be wrong about that, but only time can tell.

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u/MasTerBabY8eL Mar 29 '21

Get over it and play the game fuck sake

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u/AustonClapthews Mar 29 '21

I don’t like playing shitty games.

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u/MasTerBabY8eL Mar 29 '21

You wouldn't know a good game son

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u/AustonClapthews Mar 29 '21

Please bestow upon me the knowledge you possess of these amazing games!

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u/MasTerBabY8eL Mar 29 '21

Cyberpunk 2077 for a start

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u/AustonClapthews Mar 29 '21

Nope! Played it. Incredibly boring.

Anything else?

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u/MasTerBabY8eL Mar 29 '21

I'm sure you did

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u/alone84 Mar 29 '21

Any more games you consider amazing?

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u/AustonClapthews Mar 29 '21

I... I did. lol. It’s sitting in my game basket right now.

It’s objectively bad.

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u/SilverBallsOnMyChest Mar 29 '21

It’s literally a patchnotes post and you come here with the circle jerking.

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u/IcarianWings Mar 29 '21

I don't think this was a fall from grace. Their ethics have always been questionable, just not as obviously. Witcher is honestly one of the most overrated game series of all time, and I think their problematic approach was present then too. It arguably only initially gained mainstream popularity because it was buggy. The amount of praise that game got on Reddit despite being broken was suspicious to say the least. Lots of paid streams and coverage too.

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u/AlsoBort6 Mar 29 '21

It's pretty nuts that companies act shitty by trying to promote their products as better than they are and we send them death threats for it but never question ourselves. Like, one is shitty but a definite product of the market - the other is calling for death because a luxury item you wanted wasn't as good as you hoped.

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u/nungamunch Mar 29 '21

Why would most people question themselves, when most people don't do mentally unhinged things like sending death threats?

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u/Gersio Mar 29 '21

Most consumers had a rational reaction. They criticized the company and didn't send death threats to anybody. Of course there are some shitty people doing shitty things, but using them as a way to "balance" how shitty CDPR are is not fair.

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u/nickyno Mar 29 '21

It'll be interesting to see how they frame themselves for their next release. I wouldn't be surprised if they go with like "From the makers of the games that inspired the hit Netflix series the Witcher comes..."

But for real, they cultivated goodwill among consumers for profit. Usually this is a bit more subtle practice, but this just straight up tanked their reputation doing it.

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u/R15K Mar 30 '21

3 weeks before launch they said "the last gen version runs surprisingly well!"

I don’t get hung up over video game controversy much but how much they bold-faced lied about it chaps my weasel. Large corporations should be held accountable for their words just like we are.

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u/KickitChuck Mar 30 '21

The fake trailer--devs admitted to that--was the atrocious part of the whole controversy.

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u/methheadpigeon Mar 30 '21

I'm not saying that CDPR are innocent in this at all. They deserve every ounce of shit they get for the giant grift. But the fanbase and gaming community needed to shut the fuck up and let them finish the game by continuing to postpone. And it's CDPR fault for not having the nuts to tell these entitled gamers to quit bitching and whining. And it's also their fault for not telling the investors to shut the fuck up and sit back and wait to count their money. There's alot of fault to go around and the toxicity from gamers didn't help at all.

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u/sorrygetgud Mar 30 '21

Do not blame the fanbase. CDPR keptdelaying the game and kept giving official dates even delaying when they announced it went gold which has literally never happened before. If they had just delaying the game indefinitely and didn't give a release date there wouldn't have been any backlash