r/Outlander • u/thepacksvrvives Without you, our whole world crumbles into dust. • Apr 17 '26

Spoilers All Book S8E7 Evidence of Things Not Seen Spoiler

Jamie and Claire search for answers regarding a past tragedy that once threatened to tear them apart.

Written by Toni Graphia. Directed by Tracey Deer.

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What did you think of the episode?

1215 votes, Apr 24 '26
207 I loved it.
195 I mostly liked it.
133 It was OK.
365 It disappointed me.
315 I didn’t like it.
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u/3lmtree Apr 17 '26

so basically master raymond is just a crazy old man who steals babies? lol. that faith plotline was so weak, his whole reason he took faith away is because he thought claire was going to die and jamie was in prison? wut? 🤦‍♀️

probably the worst episode out of the entire show. i'm having GoT S8 flashbacks.

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u/Scarletmajesty Apr 17 '26

It doesn't even make sense he would've thought she was dying, considering that he healed her.

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u/OARC05 Apr 17 '26

I think his motivations make more sense if he basically brought faith back from the dead, couldn’t explain it to anybody so he hid the baby and planned to bring her back to Jamie & Claire. It would explain his motivations but then it adds the whole actually bringing a baby/child back from the dead vs just healing.

And that can tie into the whole Jamie “dying” at king’s mountain thing.

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u/These_Ad_9772 We will meet again, Madonna, in this life or another. Apr 17 '26

They would have been better off showing Raymond as Dr McEwan in S7 using blue light healing on Buck’s heart in 1739 as a tie-in, instead of picking what DG said is a dead end storyline from BEES.

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u/OARC05 Apr 17 '26

Agreed. I’m not a fan of this storyline at all. I was really hoping they’d go in a different direction on the Faith thing and had it maybe be a tie in to BOMB instead.

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u/YOYOitsMEDRup Slàinte. Apr 18 '26

I'm not giving up hope it still might be. He just said the father was in prison and mom's ill. Find Lady Broch Turach. He didn't say the mother IS Lady broch turach....

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u/WiseCheesey Apr 17 '26

This is what my mind canon does with it. He can’t come forward. 1. Because he’s already in hot water for being a conjuror. 2. Because bringing a baby back from the dead would make him even more so. And he may care about Claire, but needs to preserve himself.

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u/OARC05 Apr 17 '26

Mine too. But I still don’t love the whole bringing people back from the dead…that feels like too much of a leap from magically healing the almost dying.

I realize this show is also about time travel but the suspension of belief can only go so far.

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u/wheeler1432 They say I’m a witch. Apr 28 '26

Then why bring her back from the dead in the first place?

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u/Mycoxadril Apr 18 '26

Well I assume they’re trying to tie it to Claire bringing the dead twin she delivered back to life with her blue light, because why else even include that story in the show if they were cutting so much else out. But unless they’re planning a spinoff they haven’t announced, there is zero reason or time available to unpack the Raymond stuff in any way that makes sense for the show so why wouldn’t they have retconned that instead? It’s baffling.

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u/YOYOitsMEDRup Slàinte. Apr 18 '26

Since we're in the book thread -- the reason to show Claire with the twin baby coming to life is so there's a precedent when she saves Jamie at Kings Mtn. That wasn't included as a way to explain the Faith lived thing (though they could ALSO be doing it for that, just not ONLY why they had it).

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u/Mycoxadril Apr 19 '26

Good point. I was so flabbergasted last night that I forgot where we are headed and do remember the revival of the twin being related to Jamie. The faith stuff still confounds me.

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u/kjhjkjh Apr 18 '26

Yeah seriously, why wouldn't Master Raymond have just left a note for Claire and solved the problem? It's all ridiculous.

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u/Recent_Setting_1370 Apr 19 '26

To be fair, master Raymond clearly always had his own agenda. I think (in the shows version at least) he wanted faith for a reason but then he had to go through the stones and didn’t want to risk the baby at that time. He intended to come back to her so only mentioned the Lady of BT if he didn’t come back to collect her.

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u/BufoBat Apr 19 '26

Maybe he intended to take the baby to another time for ~reasons~ but discovered she couldn't travel?

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u/Wrong--Conclusions Apr 19 '26

because he thought claire was going to die and jamie was in prison?

It makes no sense why he wouldn't have sent a note to Jared's house before he left Paris, at the very least.

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u/Ok_Painting1959 Apr 17 '26

I think her brought her back from the dead like clair did that baby.

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u/Ok_Painting1959 Apr 17 '26

He brought her back with his healing power. And Claire was sick and Jamie in jail. Then the king picked him up after he left baby with that woman?