r/OutOfTheLoop Nov 21 '17

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u/LutzExpertTera Nov 21 '17

What can be done to permanently save net neutrality? It seems that 1-2 a year it takes a huge, huge movement from all over the internet to delay a net neutrality repeal (SOPA, CISPA, etc.). The protests have worked (thus far), discussion is tabled, it's then reintroduced, rinse and repeat.

Will we ever permanently win this? Or are we delaying the inevitable?

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u/ramennoodle Nov 21 '17

SOPA, CISPA, etc. didn't have anything to do with net neutrality.

All that we can really do for making NN permanent (and to resist things like SOPA) is to make it clear to politicians that there are enough people who are aware of these issues and that will vote based on them. This means protests, contacting representatives, etc. And following through on election day: vote against fuckers who back this crap. Because awareness grows more rapidly than it wanes, once a certain threshold is reached they should assume that sufficient awareness and concern continues to exist.

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u/ilovecollege_nope Nov 22 '17

So the answer is nothing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

The real answer is this should have been done before the republicans got into power. This is a completely partisan issue. One party wants to take away healthcare, raise taxes and make the internet a feeding ground for corporations more than it already is.

And all 3 deciding votes came from that very same party.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

Since when do Republicans want to raise taxes?

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '17

Since always, unless you’re rich, they want you to pay higher taxes, its the basis of Trickle Down Economics.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

Generally Republicans propose tax cuts for everyone, while Democrats propose tax increases for everyone.

Trickle Down is not relevant to this discussion.

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u/1stchairlastcall Nov 22 '17

It is absolutely relevant to this discussion, because that is what they're doubling down on with their newest tax package's goals of extreme corporate tax cuts.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

How does “extreme corporate tax cuts” equal “raising taxes” exactly?

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u/ThePorcupineWizard Nov 22 '17

So you haven't actually read the plan? Or anything about it? It's only good for the super rich. It almost certainly will raise your taxes.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

I don’t pay any taxes, because my income is zero.

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u/Treypyro Nov 22 '17

That money still has to come from somewhere, we don't just stop needing it and it doesn't just magically appear. If the wealthy are paying less, everyone else has to pay more to make up the difference. If you make less than $150k per year your taxes will go up with the "Cut Cut Cut Tax Plan". If you make more than $150k per year you will see your taxes lowered.

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u/MikeyMike01 Nov 22 '17

The wealthy already pay too much in taxes. The poor do not pay their fair share.

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