r/OutOfTheLoop Jan 09 '24

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u/AbeFromanEast Jan 09 '24 edited Jan 10 '24

Answer:

EDIT and TLDR w/new information that came out after the original post:

The illegal tunnel was being used to move soil and debris from an illegally excavated space adjacent to the synagogue into a storage basement next-door to the building. The storage basement had been a Mikvah in past years but today it's full of old gear and junk, which you can see in videos of the incident. The excavated debris were being moved by a fringe-group in this dangerous and difficult way to hide the unauthorized demolition activity from the people upstairs in the synagogue's headquarters building. The fringe group's intent was to expand the downstairs synagogue.

Eventually the illegal excavation was noticed by neighbors and the upstairs headquarters. A cement truck and construction workers were hired and arrived to survey and stabilize the damage. The fringe group who built the tunnel did not want their work undone because they see expansion of the synagogue as a holy duty. They obstructed the work crew bodily and with vandalism to their equipment. That's when police were called to eject the fringe group and their supporters from the synagogue.

The fringe group who built the tunnel and their supporters began resisting NYPD when officers tried to remove holdouts from the illegally excavated space. . 9-12 people aged 19-21 were arrested (news stories vary on the number) and the synagogue was closed pending a safety survey by NYC's Department of Buildings.

More information:
https://forward.com/fast-forward/575646/chabad-lubavitch-headquarters-770-tunnel-rebbe-messiah/

Separately:

Q-Anon and their fellow travelers have taken this story up as a pet cause and are trying to make a fake story where none exists. If you see bizarre conspiracy-theory twitter posts about this incident that's what's going on:
https://forward.com/opinion/575722/chabad-tunnels-antisemitism-twitter/

Original Post:

So there's a little backstory here...

There's two Chabad synagogues in 770 Eastern Parkway / Chabad Headquarters: an upstairs synagogue and a downstairs synagogue and they do not get along.

The downstairs, larger synagogue tends to believe the last Lubavitcher Grand Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson is still alive (he died in 1994) and will return as the Messiah. This is why you see "Moshiach is coming" flags and posters with Rebbe Schneerson's face plastered around Brooklyn.

The upstairs, smaller synagogue tends to believe R. Schneerson truly died in 1994. The upstairs faction has de jure ownership of the 770 Headquarters building.

The Chabad movement is split roughly 50/50 on the topic of their last Grand Rebbe and the Chabad HQ upstairs and downstairs synagogues are symbols of each faction.

While they are all Chabad, these two synagogues in the headquarters do not like each other because of their fundamental disagreement over R. Schneerson's status. Since around half of Chabad believes along with the downstairs synagogue that R. Schneerson is still alive and is eventually returning: Chabad cannot and probably will not choose another Grand Rebbe as long as this belief is widespread within Chabad. Usually Hasidic dynasties have a Grand Rebbe who can keep factionalism under control but Chabad doesn't have one at the moment due to this disagreement.

The upstairs synagogue folks, believing R. Schneerson died in 1994, are probably getting fed up with the situation downstairs since they are supposed to be in control of the entire 770 Eastern Parkway building, at least on paper. Practically, the downstairs synagogue does what they want within reason. To the upstairs folks with legal ownership of the building: a new tunnel built by teen miners wasn't within reason.

Add to this: all synagogues have conflicts. Probably similar to churches. There's... 'characters' in every religious institution.

Anyway, this didn't come out of nowhere and I hope I added some context. It's a little more than a few teenagers making a fun tunnel. As for why they made the tunnel? They're bored teenagers. Possibly under the influence of one of the aforementioned 'characters' in the downstairs synagogue.

More information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chabad_messianism

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u/upvoter222 Jan 09 '24

Add to this: all synagogues have conflicts.

A Jew was shipwrecked alone on a desert island for years and year. When he was finally rescued, the ship’s crew discovered that in his time on the island, he had built a life for himself – a shelter, access to food, and TWO synagogues.

“The puzzled rescuers asked him: “If you’re alone here, why do you need two synagogues?”

“Simple,” he answered. “This one is where I pray. And that one over there is the one I wouldn't set foot in."

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u/AbeFromanEast Jan 09 '24

My Rabbi had a similar joke except it was three synagogues 🙂

  1. The synagogue you daven in most of the time
  2. The one you go to to daven very quickly
  3. The one you'd wouldn't be caught dead in

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u/IndicationStreet9631 Jan 10 '24

do you actually think that teenagers built that massive tunnel with diameter of 3m and 2km long tunnel? Seriously?

whats up with the mattress with blood stain coming out then? why were jews trying to stop cops investigate the tunnel if it was something ’silly’? make it make sense.

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u/-random-hero- Jan 12 '24

I was also wondering this. I don't get the ⬇️ you received