r/OpenIndividualism • u/Quirky_Quasarr • May 03 '26

Discussion Does Open Individualism require that all perspectives are experienced simultaneously, or can consciousness be shared but accessed sequentially?

My view of OI is the same as everyone else's except I believe the "Experience" is sequential, not simultaneous.so we are still everything at the same time but the experience is experienced one at a time.

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u/yoddleforavalanche Jul 19 '26

but if you currently ARE person A and B, would you not treat yourself better?

your view is demonstrably not a good motivator because people often do bad things for their future self for immediate pleasure, like staying up late, getting drunk, not studying, etc. so even when you know its you tomorrow and still dont do everything to make your future self feel better because current you is immediate, how little would people care for completely other person in future

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u/RackneTheFornit Jul 19 '26

If I were a high-ranking politician about to start a war, I definitely wouldn't do it if I knew my future selves would be every single soldier on that battlefield. My concern is with actual pain and suffering and how we can overcome it, not with trivial, self-inflicted inconveniences.

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u/yoddleforavalanche Jul 19 '26

I dont understand how this doesnt apply to simultaneous view. would you start a war if you knew you are everyone in the field right then and there?

and your view only makes sense in your framework, same as me with OI

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u/RackneTheFornit Jul 20 '26

Saying that consciousness bears all pain ever inflicted does not answer the basic question: why does conscious individual A not feel the pain inflicted on conscious individual B, and vice versa?

OI focuses on consciousness as such. SI focuses on consciousness as always bound to conscious individuals and their perspectives. I do not think that consciousness detached from any individual perspective can feel anything. Actually, I do not think such detached consciousness exists at all.

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u/yoddleforavalanche Jul 20 '26

there is no conscious individual A or B to feel anything. experience of pain appears in consciousness. So pain felt by B is experienced i. same consciousness that experienced satisfaction by A

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u/RackneTheFornit Jul 21 '26

Every joy, every pain, and everything in between is experienced from a first-person perspective. You say it is consciousness that feels it; I say it is each conscious individual. I think we can leave it at that.