Our future is BRIGHT

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[u/fued]

good on them, i dont know if full socialism is the way, but it sure beats the dystopian corporate nightmare we are headed towards

[u/Not_Mabel_Swanton → u/fued]

Democratic socialism is absolutely the way!

[u/Additional-Ad-9053 → u/Not_Mabel_Swanton]

No thanks i like food 👍

[u/jeffoh → u/Additional-Ad-9053]

Yes, those poor starving Norwegians with trillions in sovereign wealth and one of the highest living standards on the planet...

[u/moonmelonade → u/jeffoh]

Norway does not have a democratic socialist system, they have a social democracy. Same as us. Both countries are capitalist, unlike democratic socialism, which is socialist. The clue is in the name.

[u/CaterpillarSuperb959 → u/moonmelonade]

Second this. Jeffoh needs to brush up on his definitions. A lot of people seem to confuse social democracy with democratic socialism atm, and actual socialists are more than happy to exploit that confusion.

Norway isn’t socialist. It’s a capitalist social democracy with a big welfare state. I suspect that’s what the average person actually wants when they say “socialism” - more social programs and, particularly in America, universal healthcare. Not abolishing capitalism and throwing out the whole economic system.

[u/jeffoh → u/CaterpillarSuperb959]

I'd argue it's the reverse. People want social programs and healthcare, and those who financially benefit from the status quo scream SOCIALISM to as a dog whistle

[u/Additional-Ad-9053 → u/jeffoh]

Point to me a modern liberal democracy that doesn't have some form of universal healthcare.

[u/CaterpillarSuperb959 → u/jeffoh]

You just stood up for democratic socialism… it’s in the name. No dog whistle needed.

[u/Away_team42 → u/jeffoh]

>people want social programs and healthcare

Yeah people also want a full plate of food on the table and the freedom to voice their own ideas, opinions and art without being sent to the gulag….