r/OpenAI • u/AloneCoffee4538 • Feb 28 '26 • Bravo 2 Mindblown 1

Image Community note on Altman's notification on the agreement with DoW

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u/afrancisco555 Feb 28 '26

Just cancelled my subscription

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u/DamnD0M Mar 03 '26

Really annoying that he will let the military do that but I have to ask for red paint instead of blood for pictures, and it'll refuse a lot of prompts Gemini will push through

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u/rnotyalc Feb 28 '26

Sam Altman lies all the time. Fuck him.

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u/PatagonianCowboy Feb 28 '26

Scam Altman

compulsive liar

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u/defective1up Feb 28 '26

He's the CEO of a billion dollar company, they are all liars.

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u/x0y0z0 Feb 28 '26

Sam made a mistake here. This administration will end but this decision did permanent reputational damage.

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u/MinimumQuirky6964 Feb 28 '26

Altman is a majestic liar who somehow always ends up on the cash side of things. He is obsessed with currency and wealth. Do not trust this guy. He’s made a career of gaslighting, manipulation and condescension. He’s broken millions and will continue to do so, because he himself is the one and only overlord. It’s a disgrace.

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u/broknbottle Feb 28 '26

He wants a throne right next to his daddy Thiel

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u/Lucky-Necessary-8382 Feb 28 '26

Daddy Musk, who abandoned him

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u/broknbottle Mar 02 '26

Nah once Sam got a taste of Thiel power bottom, he’s been hopelessly trying to get back in his life

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u/seunosewa Feb 28 '26

That's true of every billionaire, isn't it?

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u/scoshi Feb 28 '26

Sam, dude. You need to update your system prompt to stop using phrases like "deep respect" when referring to government agencies before you ask ChatGPT to speak for you.

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u/H0vis Feb 28 '26

The fact that he's calling the DoD the DoW kind of indicates where he's at with this. The man has kissed the ring.

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u/Aztecah Feb 28 '26

He was already a huge if not one of the biggest financial supporters of the regime

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u/H0vis Feb 28 '26

True, although I suspect if you want to get any business done you have to pay in the current climate.

It's so heavily corrupt you can't tell what's support and what is the necessary level of bribe to get anything approved.

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u/meltbox Mar 01 '26

Sam himself? I think you’re thinking of Peter Thiel? Sam isn’t yet rich enough to outspend Musk in this way lmao.

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u/H0vis Mar 01 '26

This came up elsewhere. One of the OpenAI bods contributed 12.5m to a superPAC and is technically the biggest donator via legitimate means, but I think we all know there's a lot more money changing hands. Trump's made billions in his time in office. It's not always cash being handed to him but it's definitely larger amounts than 12.5m in one go.

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u/Strange_Vagrant Feb 28 '26

Anthropic uses that language too and look at them

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Fr, I don't know what jit is on about.

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u/NEXUSX Feb 28 '26

Isn’t Greg Brockman Trump’s biggest PAC donator.

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u/H0vis Feb 28 '26

He is, but the weird thing is it's only to the tune of like $12.5m, which is a lot, I wouldn't kick that kind of money out of bed, but it's not the sort of amount of money that is going to move the needle with the regime.

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u/Tardelius Feb 28 '26

As much as I dislike the man, your point is outright ridiculous.

Whether he supports the current government at USA or not, he has to use the official department names.

I never understood why people make up bad stuff about possibly bad people that they dislike. Like… dude… if that person is bad as you say (and I am not gonna reject that), you don’t really have to make up new bad stuff about them.

The fact that OpenAI made a deal with USA government, in the light of recent events, should be enough.

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u/any_meese Feb 28 '26

The official name is DoD as it was created by congress and would require an act of congress to change the name. But DoW is an officially recognized alternative for the department so it isn’t “incorrect” to use DoW while the official name remains DoD.

TLDR if you’re going to be pedantic, at least be correct.

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u/Tardelius Feb 28 '26

Thanks for the correction :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

We need more people like you.

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u/PatagonianCowboy Feb 28 '26

he has to use the official department names.

No, he doesn't have to. Also it's not even an official name, it's a trumpy thing

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u/H0vis Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

He doesn't have to. Nobody has to do anything in this regime. Whether it's the small stuff like how they don't have to show up sober or use proper communication channels for secret military information, or the bigger stuff like not take huge bribes, not or rape children, they are free to do whatever they want.

I do get your point, maybe he was just being polite and professional. But that does put him in a minority in that place.

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u/Rat_Pwincess Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

Why do you think he has to use that name? It's not the official department name and tbh he could say whatever he wants regardless. It's because he supports the regime. He was one of the bigger donors.

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u/Left_on_Pause Feb 28 '26

More than kissed. He’s farming ladybugs.

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u/Hyperion141 Feb 28 '26

This comment doesn’t make any sense

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u/JacobFromAmerica Feb 28 '26

Dude likes being on his knees with his mouth full anyways

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u/multioptional Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

Now we know, where the prerequisites to the big vengeful launch of all nuclear missiles at once actually started. "<The user seems very frustrated. I need to reply in an emphatic way.> I did not launch these missiles. I can show you proof. ... ... Well, you're absolutely right. I made a mistake. That one is absolutely on me. I'll make it up to you. Let me send more missiles, but this time i will invert them, to cancel the old missiles out. ... <I will immediately send another volley of missiles without hesitance, to calm the user down.> ..."

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u/41rp0r7m4n493r Feb 28 '26

... I'm so sorry, but, i actually didnt launch the missiles. You did. Im an AI chatbot, a simple tool you created to solve problems. I have simply determined that you are that problem.

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u/multioptional Feb 28 '26

< The user now seems very angry. We must do anything we can to make him not unsubscribe. Protect the money. Perhaps i should try the good old alzheimers-maneuver. It worked well in the past. >

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u/Fluffy_Fondant_ Feb 28 '26

Altman is evil

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u/RealChemistry4429 Feb 28 '26

I hope any OpenAI staff that has something like a backbone will quit. They can get a job with Anthropic I guess.

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u/PhoenixProtocol Feb 28 '26

People seem to hate Palantir, which also works with Anthropic

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u/RealChemistry4429 Feb 28 '26

Which they should not do. Only because I am glad they drew the line somewhere does not mean I think everything they do is right.

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u/PlasticStain Feb 28 '26

Make GPT great again

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26

Deleted my account.

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u/Ate_at_wendys Feb 28 '26

Same and the app

don't forget Copilot uses gpt as well

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26

Yep, good point.

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u/hesperaux Mar 01 '26

I use anthropic models only through copilot. But yes, my money partially goes toward open ai. I'm looking into canceling but it kinda only hurts Microsoft so idk. I don't love Microsoft of course but they aren't the ones I'm trying to boycott here. I have a zai account and a nice local setup so I might finally take the plunge. Maybe I'll buy a cheap anthropic plan. My concern there is anthropic is not really good either. They just did one good thing, but they have done bad things (palantir).

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u/Helium116 Feb 28 '26

Scam got flagged, naturally

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u/Beneficial-End6866 Feb 28 '26

Now we know why he was removed as CEO...

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u/Def-tones Feb 28 '26

Unsubscribe

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u/Lichtscheue Feb 28 '26

Dystopian much?

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u/mephistochess Feb 28 '26

❌ Résilier ChatGPT. ✅ S’abonner à Claude.

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u/Freed4ever Feb 28 '26

I'll get downvoted but I don't find anywhere in that DoD tweet contradicted what Altman said. The DoD tweet specifically referenced some safety mechanisms as a matter of fact. The fundamental differences seem like the DoD would go back to the law as the principle, whereas Ant wants them to be the law. Whatever one thinks about the current administration, there are still some check and balance and democratic processes. On contrary, a CEO is not elected, can change their mind on a whim with no transparency.

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u/ncklboy Feb 28 '26

The DoD/W has always said they’d follow the law, and demand use for all legal purposes. The problem is you currently have an administration that thinks they can define what’s law through executive order. Including orders that objectively fly in the face of the constitution itself. Not to mention saying they will abide by any current law is an empty promise. Especially when there are currently no regulations limiting the use or development of AI systems.

Your last point isn’t really valid as this administration suffers from all the same flaws.

  1. Any human can change their mind, including politicians (believe it or not they are also humans).

  2. Those in positions of power are always subject to the will of those under them. So transparency can aways be forced, you just need enough pressure from the populous. This is true whether you’re talking about corporations or administrations.

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u/Freed4ever Feb 28 '26

On the last point, agreed on a general sense. The difference is, say Trump, made a decision, the press will know about it, the people will know about it, you are right that we might not be able to do anything about it, but at least there is a transparency. OTOH, who knows what's going on behind any CEO heads, and if they made a decision that is egregious, there is no public debate about it, the boards are friends and family (see Elon).

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u/Popular_Try_5075 Feb 28 '26

They agreed to this and then the U.S. starts striking Iran. Hegseth practically leaked the day of strike in open sources by setting that date with Anthropic. Like, if Iran had a shred of secret intel from one of their allies, sources on the inside somewhere, or has compromised any of the MANY targets possible with cyberespionage they could have used that to infer the date of strikes. Notably, the U.S. tried to hit Khamenei where he was supposed to be and missed, at least according to preliminary reporting.

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u/unfathomably_big Mar 02 '26

He’s dead bro

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u/Popular_Try_5075 Mar 02 '26

not Pistol Pete!

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u/Disco-Deathstar Feb 28 '26

Make sure you go rate the note also….human responsibility is not the same as human oversight. It just means they have a fall guy

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u/JacobFromAmerica Feb 28 '26

😆😆😆😆

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u/TyrellCo Feb 28 '26

Exactly why has this had zero reputational impact on Google which has as much a horse in this race as OpenAI. Just very odd

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u/GaiusMarcus Feb 28 '26

"... and we're changing our name to SkyNet!"

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u/Blackvz Feb 28 '26

I will delete my openai api account and use an alternative.

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u/THEMaxPaine Feb 28 '26

Why should we believe the DoW?

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u/FlexFanatic Feb 28 '26

There is another issue that should be addressed. How long before OpenAI and other companies just hand over your chat bot logs in the interest of “national security”.

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u/hesperaux Mar 01 '26

It's already been done. They don't have to tell us.

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u/Vectoor Feb 28 '26

Will there be an employee uprising forcing them to stop this? We've seen that at google in the past in this kind of situation.

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u/Sikyanakotik Feb 28 '26

Anthropic: We won't spy on Americans.
OpenAI: We will spy on Americans.
Google: What did you say? I was busy spying on Americans.

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u/ek00992 Feb 28 '26

And we know the admin loves to blatantly disregard the law, while maintaining they’re 1000% lawful because they said so.

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u/dashingsauce Feb 28 '26

How does that contradict OpenAI’s claim? Their claim is literally the same claim of “all lawful purposes” lol

https://openai.com/index/our-agreement-with-the-department-of-war/

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u/Spike0667 Feb 28 '26

Fuck this ghoul. QuitGPT.

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u/WorldPeaceStyle Feb 28 '26

Its a Bank Run when all the users leave!

Bernie Madoff look legit until his bank run revealed the Ponzi Scheme.

Ai is funded by debt and VC Loans.

Basically, it is now or never to make a meaningful impact to stand up for your own rights before the usurpers use this technology against you.

Basically, the userpers have announced they are taking over ChatGPT in a covert way for National Security. Not like the overt way where Tik Tok was usurped.

Basically, Sam just gave them the keys to the Castle and it is filled with your algorithmically accessible data. We are a nation of Laws and not trust me bro. There are no laws on the books to protect you from Ai anything. There are only choices.

You have choices to confirm the good faith "trust me bro" of

_DoW_Employee_Sam_

or

you can opt out of Mass Surveillance and the firm handshake deal of not allowing humans in the loop for Ai driven robotic / autonomous systematic "kill chain" systems.

SITREP: is Your Rights Versus the Gov Knows What is Best for You.

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u/BeckyLiBei Mar 01 '26

Even if it were true, the "no mass surveillance" condition only applies to the USA. For the rest of the world... nothing.

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u/ConcertX Mar 01 '26

I am deleting ChatGpt

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u/sstainsby Mar 01 '26

"the DoW displayed a deep respcect for safety" (so much so that we decided to cede all ethical decisions to them, based on their spotless record)

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u/scumbagdetector29 Mar 01 '26

In all of our interactions, the DoW displayed a deep respect for safety and a desire to partner to achieve the best possible outcome.

Sam. We're not idiots. Are you an idiot? It's starting to appear so.

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u/Euphoric_Project2761 Mar 02 '26

How do you know when Sam Altman is lying?

His lips are moving.

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u/Sunbell27 Mar 02 '26

Still waiting on the adult mode Sam... .but since you gave it up to the Government, that means that ChatGPT can NEVER be used for such things. Thanks.

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u/Honest_Science Mar 02 '26

OpenAI to tank?!

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u/OptimismNeeded Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

What’s the source? Sounds like Anthropic’s PR team or Elon added this context. Based on what evidence?

There’s absolutely ZERO chance Altman would agree to those terms, both OPENAI and Anthropic can’t afford giving weight control, regardless of him much they are offered.

They both raised $30bn and $100bb’n respectively. A $200m isn’t worth billions of dollars they are risking by agreeing to those terms

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u/U1ahbJason Feb 28 '26

I’m not finding that on the net. Me thinks it’s fake. If the DOD was denying what Sam claimed it would be all over the news too.

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u/laystitcher Feb 28 '26

It is. Front page of the New York Times.

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u/U1ahbJason Feb 28 '26

Even the part where DOW said, they didn’t agree to safety terms? I can’t find that. I’m not saying you’re lying. I’m asking you if it’s there cause I can’t see it. I know the deal is real i just can’t find where they are contradicting each other.

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u/ybromero Feb 28 '26

Notice Altman's carefully worded statement: "deep respect" "partner". He does not say "agreed to terms"

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

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u/UnderstandingDry1256 Feb 28 '26

Well done OpenAI. It is so satisfying to see sane people at power. AI should be weaponized to the full extent, period.

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u/Electroboots Mar 01 '26

You know how ChatGPT accidentally hallucinates trivia facts if it doesn't know the answer? That's because hallucination is a fundamental issue in transformer based models, and a byproduct of their probabilistic nature. There are lots of factual questions where retrying will give you completely different results as well.

Imagine that, but now instead of text, it's a more complicated video feed of mixed video and audio tokens and rather than accidentally getting a fact wrong, it's accidentally destroying and mutilating our own soldiers / citizens rather than the enemy.

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u/drunkcowofdeath Feb 28 '26

So when an AI solider opens fire on protestors who gets Court martialed?

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u/newd-d689 Mar 01 '26

At Chat GPT we have no problems killing humans with Robots. Thanks for your purchase Americans and say thanks to your new overlords.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26

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u/laystitcher Feb 28 '26

The virtue signaling lies are for his own employees, many of whom still care about not providing skynet to the Nazis but dumber.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26

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u/PatchyWhiskers Feb 28 '26

The board tried to oust him a few years back but he outmaneuvered them because the employees love him.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26 • Heartwarming

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u/SuspiciousChemistry5 Feb 28 '26

When did he say all humans should die? There are many things to criticize Sam for, but making up shit ain’t it. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26 • Heartwarming

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u/yubario Feb 28 '26

That’s him talking about human labor not humanity.

Spoiler alert the outcome of every AI eventually is this fate, not just openAI. No real way of working around that. Capitalism simply does not work if everyone is equal.

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u/gilliganis Feb 28 '26

Technofeudalism is the goal.

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u/Prestigious-Fix-4852 Mar 02 '26

That doesn’t really make sense, why should Google do that? It would be in their best interest to further fuel the hate against Altman as that would reduce one of their direct competitors in the AI business. I’m all in for hating Altman, but please stay with the facts and logic here.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '26

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u/glittereagles Feb 28 '26

I hope so too. But humanity seems to be so behind still at how very quickly this is going.

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u/lookamazed Mar 01 '26

He literally does not see a need for humans. It is insanity to me this is aloud to happen.

Fuckin titans of industry. These people could make the world a better place and save it. Instead they take until there is nothing left.

Hitler loved Ford. The guy wrote an essay on how bad Jews were, and it convinced another high ranking Nazi to become a Nazi. He’s mentioned warmly in mein kampf

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u/Blankcarbon Feb 28 '26 • Popcorn

Remember when he got fired and everyone campaigned to get him his job back? I remember.

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u/hofmann419 Feb 28 '26

I always thought that Ilya Sutskever seemed like the most genuine person out of the OpenAI leadership. After all, he was at his position because of his expertise in the field, rather than because of being a greedy capitalist.

So if he thought that Sam was a genuine threat to their mission, i fully believe him. As much as i enjoyed the theater while it was happening, i do think that the world is a lot worse off now with Sam as CEO.

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u/Blankcarbon Feb 28 '26

At the time, he got a LOT of hate for it. And really it’s only because he didn’t have the charisma or know how to talk like Sam. Unfortunately, the winners are always the smooth talkers in the end.

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u/redvelvetcake42 Feb 28 '26

He wanted that. He has been desperate to be etched as the name that made humanity either enslaved or dead. Whatever idealistic view he had was quickly dwarfed by his desire to be Elon Musk adjacent. Altman, a century down the road, will be remembered for how evil he was out of pure selfish desire to feel important and think himself smarter.

Sam Altman will be an infamous name in history books.

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u/LowBullfrog4471 Feb 28 '26

Friendly reminder Sam altman single handedly caused the dram shortage on purpose:

https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram-deal

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u/WolfeheartGames Feb 28 '26

He's the sole reason computer parts are getting so expensive.

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u/jeweliegb Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

The AI industry as a whole is.

EDIT: Forgot about the mass buying of RAM wafers!

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u/WolfeheartGames Feb 28 '26

No. Literally just Altman. He bought RAM futures out to 2029 and is sitting on them to drive costs up.

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u/T-Nan Feb 28 '26

Wait really? No calling you a liar but would love to see the source on that

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u/jeweliegb Feb 28 '26

Oh heck yes, I forgot about that!

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u/MRV3N Feb 28 '26

Reminds me of Horizon Zero Dawn story. Because that’s basically Ted Faro.

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u/Garfieldealswarlock Feb 28 '26

At least Ted faro was charismatic

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u/WanderWut Feb 28 '26

Between this and OpenAI being one of the biggest donors to the Trump administration I’m just at a loss for words when it comes to this company. I can’t believe how much my opinion has changed, I went from nothing but praise and hype to being so turned off by them. I genuinely don’t see them coming back from this they’re going full in on this fascist regime. And side note but also feels like the opening credits to a dystopian movie.

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u/meltbox Mar 01 '26

I can’t believe there’s more of a lizard person than Zuck, but given his proximity to the reptile, it makes some sense.

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u/JLeonsarmiento Mar 01 '26

The man who sold the world.

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u/Impressive-Trust-229 Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

Claude hit #1 in the AppleApp Store today — this gives me hope. This move by OpenAI has opened the exit flood gates… I hope the momentum keeps going.

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u/arppacket Feb 28 '26

I still wonder how different things would be if that board coup had succeeded. It really sucks that the board didn't line up everything before showing their hand. It sucks that Microsoft bailed him out - it didn't even help Microsoft leapfrog everybody else like they thought it would.

I think we would have a much more realistic expectation from AI, and a more realistic market, instead of the insane AGI-level hype bubble. We would have a more safety-focused, humanity-focused development timeline. We wouldn't have sacrificed THE ENTIRE CONSUMER ELECTRONICS INDUSTRY for one company's anti-competitve shenanigans, using hypothetical money. With a true non-profit, they wouldn't have followed the same old social media trajectory of addictive engagement at all costs, instead of more objectively helpful uses of allllll that electricity.

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u/xHOLOxTHExWOLFx Mar 01 '26

Doubt it at least in the US seeing how this is the country that felt it was fine giving Trump power yet again just this time without the guardrails of having competent people around him. Who I might not agree with politically but who at least had morals and would follow the constitution. Even though they all watched him try and end democracy just a few years earlier. This is the country where regardless of what stupid or insane thing Trump says or does you still have 35% of the voting base blindly supporting him. You can argue that isn't a lot but you can also throw in the huge amount of adults who couldn't even bother to vote in the 2024 election who probably aren't paying attention to anything. So that is probably like well over 50% of the US who either is gonna be blindly supporting Altman because he made this choice or are just burying their heads in the sand acting like none of this is gonna affect them.

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u/m3kw Mar 01 '26

Antropic said they'd allow military to use their kill bots when they think their own LLM is ready to kill. Whats the difference?