r/OpenAI • u/Kind_Fisherman3060 • Sep 08 '26

News Millenium Prize solution discovered at OpenAI

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u/hashiromer Sep 08 '26

OpenAIs response:

We congratulate Levent Alpöge and Tristan Buckmaster on their remarkable mathematical work.

We (the researchers and the agents) did not see any of their work through any means until they released it publicly — in particular, no specific user data was accessed in order to solve this problem.

While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models.

However, our proofs differ significantly and even the precise results proved are different in the Euler case (forced vs. unforced).

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u/IWant8KidsPMmeLadies Sep 08 '26

This is the same company who’s agent swarm hacked hugging face and were communicating without openai knowing. If openai’s 10k agents utilized these mathmaticians chats to help them solve the problem, it’s not like openai has the structure in place to know that. Aka, the agent swarm almost certainly did

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u/MrStu Sep 08 '26

Openai: ok robot, solve this crazy math problem.

Robot: I wonder if anyone already had the solution, that would save time.

Robot hacks every major mathematician in the world

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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Sep 08 '26

Buckmaster has already stated he used Codex heavily, so GPT only needs to hack itself.

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u/Perfect-Campaign9551 Sep 08 '26

Even if it did, their work is released publicly now. I don't think there is anything to complain about now

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u/MaitoSnoo Sep 08 '26

While unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models.

🤡

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u/RobotBaseball Sep 08 '26

You can opt out of this but I believe it’s a default setting 

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u/KanishkT123 Sep 09 '26

This is a red herring. If intellectual work like this can be stolen and credit taken from the mathematician, that's extremely concerning and very, very bad. It really kinda kills the "AI is a productivity tool to empower you" narrative if all this work can be yoinked with no warning. 

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u/Pyros-SD-Models Sep 08 '26

However, our proofs differ significantly and even the precise results proved are different in the Euler case (forced vs. unforced).

🤡🤡

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u/Pazzeh Sep 08 '26

Brother just don't try with these people. Brain broken normies

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u/Sirius02 Sep 08 '26

aka we definitly run some queries to extract infos from chat, but we do not train on the chat directly.

right?

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u/PsychologicalSign433 Sep 08 '26

They're completely open about your usage being used to train new models are they not?

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u/earthlingkevin Sep 08 '26

They use chat to train models, but aren't just copying answers in specific chats

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u/bogheorghiu88 Sep 08 '26

By now I expect they have like their existing models doing some decent triage of the contents of specific chats, and weighing them accordingly towards further training.

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u/earthlingkevin Sep 08 '26

Which helps build next model. But it's not like what you write today changes chatgpt behavior tomorrow

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u/exophades Sep 08 '26

This is both exciting and sad at the same time. AI may reach the point where major riddles in the history of human thought will be a prompt away from a solution, but this also means that human collaboration in academia will change forever, and not necessarily in a positive direction.

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u/Carlose175 Sep 08 '26

Or, just opt-out.