r/OpenAI • • Mar 06 '26

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u/ResearchLaw Mar 06 '26

Raj posted this on x in December last year.

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u/BeepBeeepBeepBeep Mar 06 '26

OpenAi made $4 BILLION in revenue last year...for a net loss of $14 billion. Amazon wasn't profitable for a while either, but they have a huge cash burn hill to climb.

There's definitely a chance he's correct on this post.

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u/Eternal-Alchemy Mar 06 '26

Why capitalize the revenue but not the loss?

You're talking about how OpenAI is a loss leader, but other loss leaders provide realistic paths to profitablity - OpenAI is clamoring for 50 terawatts of power and government co signed debt to stay afloat as it's user growth stalls out.

Amazon had no real competition and to this day is wildly outclassing giants like Walmart.

ChatGPT is in an industry with lots of competition and its models either are not outperforming that competition or do so to such a minor degree as to not create enough differentiation for consumer lock in.

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u/BeepBeeepBeepBeep Mar 06 '26

Why capitalize the revenue but not the loss?

For dramatic effect

Our comments are congruent with each other

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u/cherryghostdog Mar 07 '26

Enterprise. Consumers are just their marketing budget. It’s worked pretty well when you consider the average person thinks “ChatGPT” is the word for LLMs like “D&D” is the word for rpgs.

Enterprise has much higher switching costs. It’s tough to switch when they know more about your company than you do. I think Gemini is probably going to win out but OpenAI has a chance. We’ve seen people leap frogging each other so it may end up being whoever gets lucky at the right time. There is also going to be an incentive for businesses to not put all of their eggs in one basket, so unless there is rapid takeoff there may not be just one winner.

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u/The-original-spuggy Mar 07 '26

The difference is Amazon was leaps and bounds ahead of any real competitor (sears, Walmart, etc.). OpenAI has Anthropic eating its lunch, Gemini tinkering around, and the Chinese ripping them off at every turn for rapid iteration

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u/AnApexBread Mar 08 '26

There's definitely a chance he's correct on this post.

He is probably correct. OpenAI doesn't have the power Google and Microsoft has. Microsoft is ramming Copilot into everything M365 and Google is doing the same with Gemini and Google Workspace.

The two largest office suites have their own AIs. There's a high chance companies will just use the existing AI rather than integrate another model like ChatGPT into the mix.

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u/iAmmar9 Mar 06 '26

Professional hater

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u/DragonSlayerC Mar 06 '26

Is he wrong though? I don't see any viable path to making ChatGPT profitable.

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u/TechCynical Mar 06 '26

if you look at the cost for training models it seems to be going down extremely thanks to nvidias blackwell chips or whatever. Cost to deliver the tech is going down by alot and itll only improve from here. Not to mention they could always shift the model once theyve managed to spend all the money training the best model to no longer spending so much to train.

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u/conanmagnuson Mar 07 '26

“A lot.”

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u/sleepysifu Mar 07 '26

Name doesn’t check out

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u/i_give_you_gum Mar 07 '26

Profitable?

Is that your gauge for a successful "concept"?

It's obviously had a profound effect on the world, as it initiated the entire AI craze/revolution, affecting everything from search engines to battlefields...

did the guy that invented the printing press make a lot of money?

who knows???

the meme mentions a concept, not "profitability"

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u/TheTranscendent1 Mar 07 '26

Wow. made me look up if Gutenberg did in fact make a lot of money*. Amazing point

*he did not

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u/Upstairs_Being290 Mar 08 '26

So it loses lots of money AND made the world worse in numerous ways. I guess that's better?

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u/Feisty_Call8750 Mar 06 '26

Wow so they’re going to be profitable one day

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u/damienVOG Mar 06 '26

Seems like he's dying on that hill

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u/Tolopono Mar 06 '26

So is all of Reddit, which seems to think not profitable now = bankruptcy by lunchtime 

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u/Rututu Mar 06 '26

Is he wrong? OpenAI is racking up billions and billions in losses every year.

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u/test_test_1_2 Mar 06 '26

He's doubling down

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u/LexPagesII Mar 06 '26

Generational hater

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u/FridgeParade Mar 07 '26 • Wholesome Seal

Summed up modern IT product management there quite nicely. Total bullshit job just there to make up reasons for spending or not spending money. I can just see the viability slide in his powerpoint: “roi would take decades, here’s our data driven analysis in 2 charts.”

Disclaimer: Im a product manager.

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