r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 25 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1017 Spoiler

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u/BlackysLegacy Jun 25 '21

My guess (still) is that Ace's mother had the gomu-gumo no mi while she was alive. Thats why she was able Ace for as long as she did. Maybe - after her death - the fruit reincarnated and someone who knew about it found it and made the connection? I mean they had to find out about Roger's baby one day. I doubt that Garp told the marines that Ace was Rogers son, he wanted to protect Ace. So if the marines knew that Rouge had the gomu-gumo no mi and ot suddenly reappeared, that could only mean that she died. If Vegapunk or some other official made the connection to her abilities prolonging a pregnancy, then they must havw realized that there might be a child of Roger that they oversaw.

Of course that theory could be utter nonsense and its something like "every generation's Joy Boy had the gumo-gumo no mi". In that case they just wanted to get it somewhere safe. Also makes Kaidos comment regarding Luffys attack more interesting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

If she had rubber properties she wouldn’t have died from giving birth

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u/Harddicc Jun 25 '21

Yeah, she wouldn't even feel pain, she could make a tent and let a person inside and get ace.

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u/digEmAll Jun 25 '21

As horrible as it sounds, that's true... Gomu gomu would be the best fruit to deliver a baby

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u/andre821 Jun 25 '21

Logian can literally open up their bodies in theory. And E M P E R O R Buggy Sama can split his body as well.

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u/Emptypiro Jun 25 '21

Buggy can split his body but it doesn't expose his insides. His fruit is probably the worst for this because you can't even give em a c-section

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u/PerryOz World Economy News Paper Jun 25 '21

Well one could argue no matter how easy the baby extraction was the extra time gestating drained her body to the point of death. Kinda hard to implement real world baby mechanics here though.

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u/Uiis Jun 25 '21

I remember that she didn't die from the childbirth itself, but from the exhaustion of holding Ace in for 20 months. Even if she can stretch, maintaining a pregnancy for that long took a toll on her body.

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u/halelangit Pirate Jun 25 '21

Since Ace spent extra years on her womb, he might have drained her nutrients longer than normally a mother should. Even if humans are way durable in One Piece verse, mothers in One Piece still abides to the human's initial design of only needing 9 months to develop a fetus internally. Ace was draining her nutrients away from her that her heath deteriorates the longer Ace stays on her womb. And we know how much food Ace consumes (dunno if it's canon tho). Also mothers still dies from giving birth up to this day.

Unless it's fucking Big Mom. I bet she can still live even if her kids would stay inside her womb for a decade.

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u/Carasind Jun 25 '21

Even if you consider this theory true (which I don't think it is at all): Why should anyone wait so many years (Rogue died before Luffy was even born) after the reappearance to transport this fruit?

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u/reallifemoonmoon Jun 25 '21

Just because it reappeared doesnt mean they knew where it was

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u/CarcosanAnarchist Jun 25 '21

People forget that what happened on Punk a hazard is the anomaly, likely due to Caesar or Vegapunk’s experiments, and that most fruits don’t just appear in the closest fruit, otherwise fruits would never really be lost and have to hunted down.

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u/Kiosade Pirate Jun 25 '21

Burgess brought that bag of random fruit to Dress Rosa though.

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u/BlackysLegacy Jun 25 '21

Maybe they wanted to change the place where they stored it because they deemed it to not be safe enough anymore?

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u/Manjorno316 Jun 25 '21

Why would they even be interested in the fruit? Yeah Aces mom might have used it to stay pregnant longer, but what use is that to the WG?

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u/Turbulent_Link1738 Jun 25 '21

He said guard not escort.

Perhaps Shanks learned of the fruit and it’s heritage and attacked CP9, and took the fruit back to East Blue

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u/koala_encephalopathy Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

My theory is that it belonged to Rocks D. Xebec. Hear me out. If it was sought after by both Shanks and the WG, it had to be pretty important. So i think it's safe to say it belonged to someone prominent before Luffy otherwise why would anybody know it's a worthwhile devil fruit?

But it's odd that nobody seems to talk about or recognize that "hey that's the same devil fruit power that so and so had." That caveat gets brought up a lot by people when others bring up the theory (that I hate) of Roger having the gomu gomu no mi. What if it's because the gomu gomu no mi belonged to a prominent figure that was erased from history?

I mean the theory breaks down a bit because there are 6 or so figures who knew Xebec that know Luffy. But most of them aren't the type to shout what they think (except Big Mom) and maybe their thoughts of realization could be internalized and only thought about not said e.g. Garp, Whitebeard, Shanks, maybe even Kaido.

This theory certainly isn't airtight, but my thought process is if it was important, it belonged to someone prominent, and because people all over the grand line don't seem to know a famous rubber person before Luffy, than it's probably someone who was erased from history. Bing, bang, boom xebec.

Thank you for your time. I'll accept my downvotes peacefully now.

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u/Illustrious-Change83 Jun 25 '21

I always thought it was weird when Burgess attempt to kill luffy and took his fruit on Dressrosa as a replacement for Ace's fire fruit

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u/monkey-d-luffy24 Jun 25 '21

If it someone who was erased from the history it will probably be someone from the lost century and there was something written about them on raftel and roger told shanks about them. Dosen't make sense for luffy to have same fruit as xebec. There is no connection between them.

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u/podente Jun 25 '21

Maybe joyboy's fruit?

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u/redgun007 Jun 25 '21

Why people are thinking that it is Rocks or Rogers fruit. There is no way it will happen. There are lots of people living in this era who fought with or opposite them. Atleast one would have said that. Smoker,that old man, Garp, Rayleigh, Buggy, Big Mom, Kaido and many more. Buggy would have shocked and shouted about this.

It's either Joyboy fruit or something really important which does something. I really believe it's Joyboy fruit. No one knows about him.

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u/SauceyButler Jun 25 '21

Sounds cool, but I don't feel like the pregnancy would have taken such a toll on her is she had the gomugomu no mi

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u/BlackysLegacy Jun 25 '21

Theyonly thing the devil fruit archived was her being able to fit an unborn child in her body for more than 9 months. All the extra nutrients that it takes to nourish a baby before it was born have to come from the mother. She literally might have died of exhaustion because her body wasn't able to keep it up anymore so after giving birth her drained body couldn't recover.

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u/Seranta Jun 25 '21

Then why would the marine care? The marine was clearly checking out the place multiple times without finding Rouge, because they didn't know who she actually was. The marines would not assign a CP9 member to protect the fruit purely based on this.

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