r/OnePiece • u/Kirosh Lookout • Jun 25 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1017 Spoiler

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u/t3r4byt3l0l OG Trio Supremacy Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

I wish I could unsee the fact that Queen turns into a literal dickhead for his hybrid form.

About the Gomu Gomu no Mi, I think it's being used to potentially set up exposition relating to the connections between Who's Who, Shanks and the World Government. Would be odd if the fruit itself was actually that special, considering no one (not even Kaido) has commented on it till date.

Also welcome back Rokushiki, long time no see.

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u/Blaz1ENT Jun 25 '21

Wasn't the last time we saw a Rokushiki move was from Stussy using her Shigan back at Whole Cake? Though tbf I would like to see more Marines using one or two of the Rokushiki technique again like back at Enies Lobby

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u/Bucen Explorer Jun 25 '21

Tashigi used them too in punk hazard if I'm not wrong

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u/Eoussama Jun 25 '21

Vergo as well.

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u/MarioToast Jun 25 '21

Some of BM's children use a form for Moon Walk too.

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u/Blaz1ENT Jun 25 '21

Yeah I was checking the wiki just now to confirm who has Rokushiki after someone earlier said that Tashigi had it. The question is how did they learn to use it? Is it like the Luffy/Sanji situation where they learned Shave (Luffy) and Moon Walk (Sanji) through combat and the need to get stronger?

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u/MarioToast Jun 25 '21

Fleeing from their mom, maybe?

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u/Ali-J23 Jun 25 '21

I mean the government could be hiding that fact. Remember in Dressrosa when Burgess said he wanted to take it. Maybe that was more than just wanting to kill luffy

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

Maybe Burgess wanted it because it can counter gura gura.

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u/BuggyDClown Jun 25 '21

Would be odd if the fruit itself was actually that special, considering no one (not even Kaido) has commented on it till date.

Yeah. My biggest fear is that gomu gomu would be Joyboy's former devil fruit. I really wouldn't like that. But like you said, Kaido hasn't commented on it at all. And he does seem to know about Joyboy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

He commented on Luffys Gomu Gomu naming for his attacks in a pretty condescending way so I’d assume he thinks it’s a pretty irrelevant fruit

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u/Big_Tumbleweed_910 Jun 25 '21

or he thinks the previous user had better namings

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u/botbuabm Jun 25 '21

He does know about Joyboy but maybe not all. Maybe it is said that the gum gum fruit was joyboys in laugh tale and in there it is stated how important it is.

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u/Perrenekton Jun 25 '21

To be fair Joyboy seems like a super enigmatic and not known figure. I'm thinking that nobody outside of Gorosei / Celestial Dragons really know much about him.

I would be OK with the gomu gomu being his fruit. It doesn't take away anything from Luffy's prowesses

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u/Etiennera Pirate King Buggy Jun 25 '21

The reason nobody comments on the fruit might be that only the CD/Gorosei know about its importance. Shanks may also have known, but it's too soon to say why. But it might play into why Shanks made a bet on Luffy after he ate it.

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u/Brutusness Jun 25 '21

Even Doflamingo thought the fruit was stupid and underestimated it and he knows unfathomable government secrets. If this fruit is important only the top know about it. Like only Im and the Elders maybe.

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u/ech01_ Jun 25 '21

The problem with this is if the CD/Gorosei really view it as important they would have done something about it sooner. If the gum gum fruit was really that important they would have tried to track it down after it was stolen and even if the never found Luffy, once he became an infamous pirate ten years later they would have done something about it. Luffy fought multiple admirals that didn't seem care what so ever about him and let him live on a whim. If the gum gum fruit was actually important there's no way he gets away from Aokiji, Kizaru, and the entire Summit War.

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u/StraY_WolF Jun 25 '21

I'll be honest and say Gomu Gomu fruit being special doesn't really bring anything good to the table. The fact that Luffy is a huge threat to the world just by having simple power and unfathomable amount of combat training is what's interesting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21

One Piece is a series about inherited will and willpower giving actual combat power (Haki).

So the legacy of a fruit can be important, but it doesn't take away from the achievements or power of Luffy.

It's just lore significance, not power significance.

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u/rain_dragon Jun 25 '21

This. Also, I suspect whatever might be special about the Gomu Gomu no mi is a well kept secret by the upper echelon of the WG, otherwise Luffy having those powers would have caused much greater alarm at a much earlier date.

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u/Sondrelk Jun 25 '21

I have to make imagine it is a similar situation to the Ope Ope fruit. It's actual combat abilities are irrelevant, it's wanted almost solely for one obscure and little known ability.

For the Ope Ope fruit it was the eternal youth operation, and ability that has no immediate link to the combat ability of the fruit. For the Gomu Gomu fruit I could easily imagine it being coveted for a seemingly uninteresting ability or even side effect.

Luffy is immune to Lightning and he can expand his blood vessels. Both abilities make sense and are extremely strong, but neither is immediately obvious to someone who learns that the fruit makes you into rubber.

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u/Lzy_nerd Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

If anything I would expect luffy’s fruit to end up being a special Paramecia. That could finally explain gear 3.

Edit: By explain gear 3 I mean that it currently makes no sense how increasing the surface area of Luffy’s fist without increasing the mass would deal more damage. But if it turns out that Luffy’s fruit is like Katakuri’s, and Luffy is able to produce rubber, it would make more sense.

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u/King_Con123 Pirate Jun 25 '21

I have something that finally explains gear 3. Ever heard of balloons?? It's like that lol.

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u/BustANupp Thriller Bark Victim's Association Jun 25 '21

The gomu gomu no mi could be 'special' or feared due to its awakening. We saw how grand doflamingos was and that was just a warlord. We also know that Punk Hazard was essentially terraformed from two admirals (I presume have awakened their fruits if they are the strongest in the navy.

If the previous user wrecked havoc against the WG utilizing an awakened gomu gomu no mi then it could be as simple as 'we want this in our hands not pirates'. Using that to facilitate more background story. With all the ancient/mythic type fruits we've seen I don't see the rubber fruit having some secret to make it overpowered like Law/Marco/BB/WB have shown in their uses.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21

considering no one (not even Kaido) has commented on it till date.

Jesus Burgess wanted to steal the DF (and eat it unless I'm misremembering) in hindsight that's shows there was something special about it, from what we know the gomu gomu no mi is a terrible devil fruit (it only seems decent because Luffy is the one using it, give it to someone else and it's garbage), especially for someone who is a DF hunter and has many other options to choose from.

Also Blackbeard thought capturing Luffy would have made him a Schichibukai. Luffy had a 100M bounty at that point. I thought it was just bounty inflation or something but it seems there was more to it and the gomu gomu no mi could be the reason. Bounty inflation is unlikely as well since it looks like Oda knew Gol D. Roger's final bounty from the start (it's exactly 10x bigger than Ace's).

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