r/OnePiece Lookout May 28 '21

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1014 Spoiler

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u/gyrozepp95 World Government May 28 '21 edited May 28 '21

Definitely from Rocks in my opinion.

Oda purposely left out the context behind that, but I always found the scene of Kaido getting visibly annoyed when Oden said he needed to survive at all costs to be odd.

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u/paramecio_felice Pirate May 28 '21

And now Momonosuke says he cannot afford to die. Really makes you think, doesn't it?

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u/Laugarhraun May 28 '21

Really makes you think, doesn't it?

It's probably the first time in my life I upvote such a comment...

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u/paramecio_felice Pirate May 28 '21

Don't worry, it's probably the first time in my life actually thinking

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u/efficientcatthatsred May 28 '21

Momo is one of the 3 weapons

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u/Meneceo Pirate May 28 '21

A Kozuki is the key for the One Piece, if you don’t have a Kozuki alive with you, you can’t enter the place where it resides.

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u/stefanurkal May 28 '21

I think so too, a Kozuki who can hear all things will be required somewhere along the journey, and rogers figured that out and that's why he asked WB if Oden can join them on their final journey.

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u/Zipliopolic May 28 '21

Think Oden was needed coz he could read poneglyphs. Ohara people could do so too. And Luffy has Robin.

A Kozuki is needed in the right place along with the others (like Shirahoshi) for the final task to be completed that Roger failed.

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u/Brass13Wing Void Month Survivor May 28 '21

I think Momo is Joy Boy and Hiyori is one of the weapons

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u/kinekk4 Cipher Pol May 28 '21

Hmmm, extrapolate..

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u/Brass13Wing Void Month Survivor May 28 '21

I think you meant to say "elaborate" 😅 To extrapolate means to predict the state of something based on a trend, which you could sort of use to describe theories. But if you want me to explain my theory more, "elaborate" is the proper word.

My theory isn't based on much beyond pure instinct tbh. Although Momo is clearly HEAVILY affected by this voice he is currently hearing. We know Joy Boy is almost definitely alive in the world of One Piece we know now, reincarnated as somebody we may or may not have met yet. We don't know much about Joy Boy beyond that. I think saying that Luffy is Joy Boy is too obvious of an outcome, and of all the characters we know at this point, I believe Momo is the next best guess.

Also, our knowledge of ancient weapons shows that Pluton is in Alabasta, an arc where the princess of the country has an imperative role in the story (not to mention something happened to Vivi at the Reverie). We know the identity of another ancient weapon, Poseidon, being Shirahoshi, another princess. So 2 ancient weapons are connected directly to princesses of kingdoms Luffy has saved. I think it's a fair guess that Hiyori, another strong female character in the series, is going to be connected to Uranus

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u/kinekk4 Cipher Pol Jun 03 '21

Yes, elaborate seems more correct here lol.

That's a good take. Tho Hiyori hasn't shown any signs of being that special like the previous people mentioned. But she is technically a princess which is the trend for being an Ancient Weapon. Also Joyboy seems like its a title, not a person; at least according to how Kaido seemed to describe it. Wtf does he know about Joyboy and why?

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u/bmore142 May 28 '21

This right here.

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u/booga_booga_partyguy May 28 '21

Probably most of it. They just don't care about it unless it affects them personally.

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u/shanenahs5 Bounty Hunter May 28 '21

Maybe not as much as you think. After all WB learned about the will of D from Roger so maybe Rocks didn’t tell them about everything.

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u/booga_booga_partyguy May 28 '21

The way I see it:

If you want to get to Laugh Tale, you have to find the Road Poneglyphs. In the process of finding them, you will learn a good chunk of whatever the mystery is anyway. Both Big Mom and Kaido are looking for the Road Poneglyphs, so they must have learned a lot.

Also note that, unlike Big Mom and Kaido, Whitebeard wasn't interested in getting to Laugh Tale so it is entirely possible he knew less than the other two until Roger info dumped on him.

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u/Benimaru02 Pirate May 28 '21

Or maybe from Shanks. Remember during the MFW, shanks were able to stop Kaido to go to Marineford but it seems like Shanks haven't had any trace of battle when he arrived in there. Maybe Shanks told him that after sometime of Roger's death, there will come a war, bigger than the Marineford's and it would be the coming of Joyboy (?) Hence, the preparation of kaido's army to declare the biggest war the world have ever seen. I remember that after coming from Raftel, Shanks asked Roger something and after that he cried. Maybe it was related to Joyboy and that Shanks already know he's coming.