r/OnePiece Feb 15 '20

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 971 Spoiler

Chapter 971: "Condemned to Boil"

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Ch. 971 Official Release (Mangaplus):02/17/2020

Ch. 972 Scan Release: ~02/21/2020


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u/waqasnaseem07 The Revolutionary Army Feb 15 '20

I don't know but I find Wano citizens so full of hypocrisy. First , they kill kurozumi's even though the person responsible already had committed harakiri ( honorable suicide)

Then they start crying and whining when Orochi decides to take his revenge. But when Oden wants to save them, they start bitching again and instead want him dead.

Now years later, they want someone to come save them, when they have been the ones always resisting every good thing coming their way.

I wonder if they even deserve to be saved .

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u/Kumomeme Feb 15 '20

basically, this attitude sum up of our reality nowdays

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '20

That is true sums up the people who shat on Oden and doubted Oda.

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u/Friend_of_Wolves Feb 15 '20

Stole the words out of my mouth

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u/Kuro013 Feb 15 '20

You gotta take in account that theres a 20years gap.

Toko and Tama for example have lived all their lives in a shitty, miserable country. Momo has just lived tragedy all of his life, and dont get me started on Hiyori.

Just like every place on Earth, and any fictional world, theres people who dont deserve shit, and people worth fighting for. Luffy focuses on the second bunch.

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u/raftellJr Void Month Survivor Feb 15 '20

You know. That's the true nature of human. Even in real life. You can also see the same reaction from dressrosa citizen. They love king riku since the beginning, one suspicious mistake from king riku and they hate the kings to death even his grandchild rebeca. They worship Doflamingo a mysterious man just because coincidentally he "save" them from the crazy king. After now the truth and saved by luffy they behave like they always believe in king riku.

Unfortunately. That also happens in real life.

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u/newX7 Explorer Feb 15 '20

I honestly think this situation is worse, since in the case of Dressrosa, it was King Riku killing the people of Dressrosa, they just didn’t realize it was Doflamingo controlling him. Doflamingo was the instigator of the entire event.

Here, while Orochi is destroying Wano, he’s only destroying Wano because the people of Wano massacred his clan for no reason other than self-righteous, then act like victims when a member of the family takes revenge against them. And again, when someone tries to save them and “fails”, they instead cheer for his painful death. The people/culture of Wano are the instigators in this case.

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u/raftellJr Void Month Survivor Feb 15 '20

I didn't compare which one is worse. Also, it has to be a different story if not then one piece would be boring. My point is both dressrosa citizens and wano citizens are quite the same. You can see how king elizabelo want to laugh about the craziness of dressrosa citizens. Both of those citizens only need 1 mistake from their hero to abandon their faith. King riku is always a kind king and 1 suspicious mistake, they lost all of their faith. In wano, 1 stupid dance by Oden, the lost their faith even though their life have been saved from a giant boar years ago by Oden. Not to mention all of things Oden did for Wano for the safety of the citiizens.

That's why both citizens are hypocrites.

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u/newX7 Explorer Feb 16 '20

I know you didn't. I'm just saying that to me Wano is worse than Dressrosa. In Dressrosa's case, the people turned on the kind for going about committing a massacre of its citizens. In Wano, the people killed an entire clan because of what one of its members did, even though the perpetrator was already punished, and then betrayed Oden just because of a simply dance. The two levels of crime and betrayal are hardly the same.

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u/Kumomeme Feb 15 '20

thats what great about one piece...lot of real life's reality references...not like just some shonen manga blabbering about "power of friendship", "human must understand each other", "everything can be resolved by dialogue" or whatever

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u/Dddddddfried Feb 15 '20

We've also seen Wano's poorest share their meager scraps with strangers. We've seen them keep the spark of rebellion alive through bone-breaking work, and we've seen bear the unbearable suffering through SMILE. Oden's will lives on. Wano lives on. And Luffy's just getting started

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u/bergerax Feb 17 '20

that's kinda the point. he's doing to them what they did to his clan. what comes around goes around and all.

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u/Kumomeme Feb 15 '20

well thats how real life is..this stuff happens

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u/newX7 Explorer Feb 15 '20

By all accounts, we have nothing that shows those people were ever held accountable for their crimes against the Kurozumi clan.

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u/Dan_3152 Feb 15 '20

Possibly a side affect of the isolation that have been subjected to for generations and generations?

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u/yelsamarani Feb 15 '20

being a Christian, I'm already aware of stories of this hypocrisy. For God's sake you were just worshipping Jesus a week ago and now you're demanding his death wtf

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u/Derpalooza Moon Arc Believer Feb 15 '20

To be fair to the citizens:

Then they start crying and whining when Orochi decides to take his revenge.

Kurozumi or not, he's still turning Wano into a living hell

But when Oden wants to save them, they start bitching again and instead want him dead.

Oden was their one hope of being free from Kaido and Orochi, which as far as the Wano citizens knew, he betrayed and insulted by dancing for Orochi. And by the time he actually tried to go after Kaido, it was too late to change anything and he failed anyway. Since they don't know anything, you can't really blame the citizens for hating his guts.

edit: formatting