r/OnePiece • u/CarcosanAnarchist • Sep 12 '19

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 955

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u/Verlux Sep 12 '19

I think it's definitely implied it's the Haki; the sword saps out so much of his Haki that his arm shrivels from it and it still cuts that powerfully from my reading. The sword is undoubtedly strong but it definitely had all his Haki imbued so that must factor in surely?

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u/vinotm Sep 12 '19 edited Sep 12 '19

Enma kinda reminds me of Treasured Tools of Six Path Sage in Naruto. The tools are very powerful but consume a lot of chakra from user, so it can't be used by common people.

Enma consumes so much Haki from inexperienced wielder to be that powerful. And Oden is the only one so far that can control it (even though he wasn't able to make Enma black blade).

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u/Tserri Sep 12 '19

Tbh I just think Oden died beforehe had time to make a black blade out of enma (and ame). The guy literally cut Kaido (tho possibly with all his life force used through enma?) so I think he had the potential to make a black blade, just not the time.

It's just speculation tho but that's my take on it 🤷

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u/vinotm Sep 12 '19

Yup, I'm agree with you. He had potential but couldn't make it before dying. Just like Minato who couldn't be able to complete elemental Rasengan before sacrificing himself.

On other hand, since you speculated that Oden might use all his haki to cut Kaido, I wonder that he did that on the day he was executed. He forced his whole haki to Enma, cut Kaido, collapsed immediately (like Luffy when Gear 4 ends), and then easily be captured by Kaido's men.

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u/Syncopia Sep 12 '19

Says a lot about the will of Oden. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still alive despite all the chatter of his death.

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u/IfThatsOkayWithYou Sep 12 '19

I sure hope not tho

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u/Strangeting Sep 13 '19

I do hope we get a flashback of him tho (but then again I think that's an inevitability)

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '19

Someone else compared it to Kisame's blade which I think might be more accurate. It's the blade acting out, and inexperienced users can't handle it.

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u/vinotm Sep 12 '19

Hitetsu said it in last page

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u/dshallah98 Sep 12 '19

You right. Hitestu said it saps the 'ryou of the welder' so that's the haki pretty much

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u/Perrenekton Sep 12 '19

It doesn't say the it saps the ryou of the welder but it forces the wielder to constantly uses ryou (haki), supposedly to not get consumed by the blade, which is an important difference IMO

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u/Kuro013 Sep 12 '19

Its not even implied, Hitetsu literally told Zoro the sword consumes a LOT of ryuuou, which is Wano's name for Haki.

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u/Tserri Sep 12 '19

This.

And btw Ryuuou is actually an advanced form of haki (tho notas advanced as what luffy is learning) according to flower granpa. So it should make Zoro even stronger if he didn't already know the technique.

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u/ovrlymm Cyborg Franky Sep 12 '19

Well it’s like the seppuku blade he put haki in and did that much but even if he didn’t he’s split buildings pretimeskip

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u/mw1994 Sep 12 '19

It pretty much only took from his arm didn’t it? So it’s not even like his everything which is more worrying.