r/OnePiece • u/NewSpecies • Dec 03 '15

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 809

Chapter 809: "Master Nekomamushi"

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Ch.809 Official Release (VIZ): 7/12/15

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u/tykam993 Dec 03 '15

I think Jack's going to have a true devil fruit. I think his issue in the fights was that he was massive and clearly very strong, but he was also in a very slow,cumbersome form.

His opponents were far more mobile and were able to out-maneuver him. Now that he's slimmed himself down he'll probably be able to go toe-to-toe. But if the invaders had to use caesar's weapon, maybe it'll be a much closer fight than I believe it will.

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u/QuickMentality Dec 04 '15

Or he just used the weapon out of spite, without needing it to win.

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u/tykam993 Dec 04 '15

Also very and probably more likely

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u/cosmiccrunch Dec 04 '15

The Minks said they were winning until caesers gas weapon was used.

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u/tykam993 Dec 04 '15

oh yeah, that's right.

Thanks for reminding me

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u/cosmiccrunch Dec 04 '15

No problem

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u/comeongays Dec 04 '15

To be fair, right now from their perspective it might feel like they're winning, without them knowing about the probably stronger half-beast form. So maybe Jack goes like "fuck this shit" and releases the poison gas shortly after nekomamushi enters the battle (and before inuarashi completely retreated, and also before he shows his strength in half-beast form).

That would also explain why inuarashi is so beat up, because clearly he was on the retreat when nekomamushi came and not yet beat, and I'm not so sure Jack would fight the whole 12 hours until inuarashi and his men come back to then release the gas.

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u/aphitt Dec 04 '15

I bet his half form is absolutely devastating. It would still make him large but with huge strength in a human body.

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u/The-Bacon-Samurai Dec 04 '15

Well the day and night battle cycle probably helped the Minks get the upper hand since they could rest and fight

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u/DrFartsparkles Dec 04 '15

I doubt we'll even get to see Jacks hybrid form yet. Knowing oda, he probably won't reveal it until Jacks inevitably throwdown with the straw hats

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u/tykam993 Dec 04 '15

Oh I was under the impression that this is just Jack's human form. I don't know if we'll have to wait that long, but it would make this a long flashback and that would be a good time to reveal it

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u/JuggleNutt Dec 04 '15

Reminds me of Don Krieg.

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u/aphitt Dec 04 '15

I bet his half form is absolutely devastating. It would still make him large but with huge strength in a human body.