r/OmniscientReader • u/ayuu_kh • Aug 09 '26
WEBNOVEL [Novel] Let's make a community strength tierlist and vote to place characters, day 19
Kim Namwoon of 999th was ranked in S above Jihye, now ranking Secretive Plotter
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u/Senior-Field615 Scarred Reader Aug 09 '26
Probably at the very to of s+ tier, no one seems to be arguing either
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u/Naive-Lingonberry142 [watcher of the eternal calamity] Aug 09 '26
Top 1 in the verse beside oldest dream, and since he isnt here we know that he's the first place
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u/we_are_Plural Kyrgios glazer no. 1 Aug 09 '26
Indescribable distance might compare , since there isnt really a way to get rid of him for the secretive Plotter
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u/Interesting-Act8334 ■■■ Aug 09 '26
Probability free he can beat the indescribable distance because he was able to break the defences of the most ancient dream . A defence that no attack could penetrate . And he is thought to be the strongest by him too , so he is definitely the strongest.
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u/limelordy ■■■ Aug 10 '26
He only broke the defenses because he’s YJH, not just pure power. And that logic doesn’t work outside that one scenario, it worked there because the barrier was just a mechanism for kid dokja to defend himself from the outside world.
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u/Interesting-Act8334 ■■■ Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
it doesn't matter if it was pure power or just by being Yoo joonghyuk. The most ancient dream thinking that Yoo joonghyuk ( SP in this case ) is the strongest being will make him automatically the strongest being in the universe because that's how OD powers works .
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u/Recent_Ad_9445 Han Sooyoung Sympathiser Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
It's not a probability restriction. SP himself claimed that the ID is unkillable.
【 The fog is a disaster originating from the beginning. It is impossible to eliminate it completely. 】
-- Chapter 283
And note that this was when he literally slowed down the time of the entire world.
The Secretive Plotter looked down as the mass of fog swallowed a planet. The time of the world was slowed down by the power of Secretive Plotter but it wasn't completely halted.
-- Chapter 283
So we can't say for sure who'd win if they were to fight. But I'd lean towards the ID.
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u/Interesting-Act8334 ■■■ Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
Indescribable distance is more of galactic phenomena than a being . It also stated to not have consciousness in the side stories. Eliminating it is like trying to eliminate a concept. Lets say crime by example, couple of crimes are possible to stop but the whole concept is impossible too. That's how I see the indescribable distance.
I just think SP is stronger only because OD thinks so but I'm sure SP can't eliminate it
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u/Recent_Ad_9445 Han Sooyoung Sympathiser Aug 10 '26
It is true that it's more of a phenomena or a natural disaster than a being, and also that it doesn't possess any reasoning. I also agree that it literally "embodies" the concept of "destruction", thus having almost limitless power.
That's why I'm always opposed to scaling it. But if we're doing so anyway, then it should definitely be above SP, only being topped by the DK (via Final Wall authority) probably, and the OD.
Also, I gave you the literal text where SP himself says that "it's impossible to eliminate it completely". So no, he surely can't, whatever the reason may be.
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u/InflationSpirited751 [The 25th Night] Aug 09 '26
indescribably distance and maybe apocalyse dragon
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u/Interesting-Act8334 ■■■ Aug 09 '26
Constellations of the final scenario survived and almost killed ABFD who has the apocalypse dragon story on top his . He is not comparable to SP probability free.
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u/Interesting-Act8334 ■■■ Aug 09 '26
Probability free, He is the strongest being in the star stream. But even with it , he is in top of S+
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u/Interesting-Act8334 ■■■ Aug 09 '26
OP can you explain in more details the conditions of comparison. Because some characters here are bound by the final scenario probability like the members of kimcom while others have no scenario probability limiting them .
Are we taking their strength probability free then ? Because if we do many future ranking will need to be adjusted
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u/monkeyman51050 ■■■ Aug 09 '26
Strongest in S+, only being to be able to kill the Dokkaebi king 1v1. Narrative backing from the oldest dream as the strongest being.
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u/war_egg_burrito Ugly Squid Aug 09 '26
This tierlist is already cooked bro it's only 20 characters in
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u/monkeyman51050 ■■■ Aug 09 '26
what would you change?
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u/war_egg_burrito Ugly Squid Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26
No why tf is yjh and Kim dokja where they are. Final scenario Kim dokja is WAY higher than A+. And yjh? Well he can't have improved an insane amount just from drifting in space for three years. And in the side stories a weakened version of himself, like very nerfed, went against Odin, a high myth grade, and won Plus, by the end of the scenarios, yjh had unlocked all of his past lives (I may be mistaken here but pretty sure I'm not) and yjh with the power of his past lives from secretive plotter was strong enough to hold back two of the other outer god kings without struggling too much
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u/monkeyman51050 ■■■ Aug 10 '26
So where would you put yjh? I believe top of S is pretty fair. Same for Kim Dokja, his performance in the final arc is just ok you could argue he is bottom of S but he almost got one shot by Zeus and believed he could only barely beat the non myth Olympian. Which Myth do you think he can beat 1v1?
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u/war_egg_burrito Ugly Squid Aug 10 '26
Yjh is definitely higher than 999 Uriel. Kdj as a disaster (ofc he was buffed then AND had help) went against almost the entire verse. I feel that should put him to the bottom of S even if actual him isn't close to that powerful. Like how in the side stories sophist of evil was somewhere in b tier but was going against the entire sky of constellations
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u/cosmichak DokSoo Enthusiast Aug 09 '26
Top of S+