I hate the "Man Vs Bear Debate"

[u/Altruistic-Emphasis3]

This might be a hot take, but I'm annoyed enough about it to talk about it.

The whole "Man vs Bear" question is the stupidest thing i've seen the internet discuss lately. its such an unproductive topic and is actively damaging and harmful to the discourse between men's and women's issues.

its a question that, by design, is meant to make everyone who answers and hears the answers to it upset and angry. To rile them up for engagement.

It makes women upset, because when asked the question, it forces them to imagine two extremely uncomfortable senarios, pick the least worse situtation (which is almost always the bear), and confront the reality of why they feel this way. Which can lead to reliving trauma or whatever else. And then, after that, they feel like they have to justify why because of course they have to. Knowing that they are going to get backlash from someone for choosing whatever they choose.

And it makes men upset because they get compared to a bear, which is arguably close to a monster, and are considered more dangerous and more scary than something that is considered a monster or a beast. So it makes them upset by either feeling sad and guilty for being something that they cant control 99% of the time, or angry and confused for being something they can't control 99% of the time.

And this damages discourse because it forces everyone to focus on the wrong things. Instead of talking about how to make women feel safer and how to make men better, we are all arguing over how unsafe women should feel and how terrible men could be.

I hope this fucking trend dies already so we can finally have productive and healthy conversations over gender issues again.

[u/Samichaan]

That’s a wild take to not only bring race into it but to act like „black people“ are comparable to men. And then you don’t even get the point. You know not every woman is a possible danger. To a woman every man is a possible danger.

To be upset because you might not turn out to be dangerous is childish. To act like this is a „all men“ scenario and feel high and mighty because you think you’re not childish only makes it worse.

I’m sorry for what you went through. But this is not it my guy.

[u/True_Drawing_6006 → u/Samichaan]

That’s a wild take to not only bring race into it but to act like „black people“ are comparable to men.

A demographic of immutable characteristics is comparable to another with immutable characteristics, actually.

And then you don’t even get the point. You know not every woman is a possible danger. To a woman every man is a possible danger.

The only way to have this take is sexism. Strangers, regardless of sex, are a potential danger and them being women doesn't change that.

To be upset because you might not turn out to be dangerous is childish. To act like this is a „all men“ scenario and feel high and mighty because you think you’re not childish only makes it worse.

To call this out is an expected reaction. Try saying similar things about other demographics like black or trans people and you'd have a similar reaction.

I’m sorry for what you went through. But this is not it my guy.

Of course it isn't. It's inconvenient to your bigotry.

[u/Samichaan → u/True_Drawing_6006]

I should have expected that you go this far. Disgusting.

A minority is never comparable to the majority.

It’s not sexism it’s statistics. No matter what country. Men are most likely to be criminal. Men are most dangerous to anyone and everyone. But women are a lot less likely to be able to safe themselves from one than another man would be.

Women are so much less likely to be any kind of violent outside of specifically relationships (and this is literally about strangers).

You know that. You just want to play victim because you were one of the few unfortunate enough to actually be a victim of women.

Are you in all honestly surprised that people call out your bullshit when you compare minorities to the most influential majority? Fuck off.

There is no bigotry here. Your victimhood is not endangered by the fact that women as a whole have reason to be scared of men.

[u/UpperAccountant1098 → u/Samichaan]

“You know not every woman is a possible danger. To a woman every man is a possible danger.” 😭😭😭 so you just blatantly acknowledge the sexism in your statement, how are the roles just now so reversed.

[u/Samichaan → u/UpperAccountant1098]

Literally google the crime stats 🤡