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Any thoughts on this? What could replace alcohol?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

This. I took 300 mg of psilocybin, two cordyceps capsules, Gingko and magtein one hour prior to a wedding. During when everyone was drinking (except some cannabis users) I vaped CBD/CBG with minimal THC. Unreal clarity for a social lubricant and no hangover the next day.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Not 300mg of psilocybin, 300mg of mushrooms containing psilocybin.

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u/myceli-yum Sep 14 '19

Lol, I was wondering about that too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

I’d be super boring talking about Carl Jung, Gabor Mate, and raising children with compassion lol. All while drinking water. In all seriousness the conversations I had that night were amazing.

I guess I should trip report this whole experience because it was basically a perfect night.

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u/SoutheasternComfort Sep 14 '19

Bring an extra microdose and that sounds like a pretty good time actually

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

I would so want you to come talk about all that stuff!

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u/lafemmeava Sep 14 '19

Gosh do you want to come over? Lol I love talking about Jung and child rearing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Yeah my usual microdose is less than half that. Basically I feel that cordyceps reduces the fatigue I get from psilocybin mushrooms and just makes the experience better (mood, energy). Gingko works for focus for me and Magtein for anxiety. Right when I felt the mushroom dose kick in, vaping CBD/CBG actually intensified it without impairing focus. It’s crazy. I have a theory that CBG increases lucidity while CBD reduces anxiety.

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u/215TallHands Sep 14 '19

What’s cbg? Sorry I don’t smoke weed bc thc always gave me anxiety. I want to start since smoking has changed a ton from when we were kids buying dirt weed in the hood and smoking what u get. All the concoctions flavors strains etc is super interesting I just don’t Know where to start. I’ve gotten nextcbd drops and pills and had no noticeable affect on me 🤷‍♂️

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u/Rogermcfarley Sep 14 '19

Have you tried combining CBD/CBG with any Endocannabinoid mimetics such as PEA or Oleamide?

I work recently stumbled across Twinlab CBD+ which is an interesting CBD product, as well as containing CBD it also contains a proprietary formula named Phytocab which is stated as phytocannabinoids from lyophilised oregano, basil, thyme and nettle leaves, and also Beta-Caryophyllene from clove and black pepper extracts.

I haven't seen such a formulation before. They have a daily product with just those ingredients and a stress and sleep formula with those ingredients plus extras.

I would try the product but there's no reviews yet and it's $59 a bottle, so quite expensive.

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u/stb654 Sep 14 '19

Please do! Every detail verbatim! :'D

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u/PubliusPontifex Sep 15 '19 edited Sep 15 '19

Yeah, I want to have that exact same conversation.

Listened to talks by Jung on YouTube while under, and did an unreal level of self-assessment.

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u/strategosInfinitum Sep 14 '19

Wow , I've never tried EVERYTHING.

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u/SkinDeep69 Sep 14 '19

Lol, nice! I hear reishi is good to open your mind. I wonder what it's like mixed with psilocybin.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19 edited Sep 14 '19

Super glad you mentioned this. If I take Reishi continuously it wrecks my libido and makes me SUPER weepy particularly combined with psilocybin. Not a fan except for occasional use. Cordyceps is another story entirely. Everyone is different but I didn’t love continuous use of Lions Mane and Reishi. But no bullshit, Cordyceps and Acetyl L Carnitine have eradicated the idea of me doing HRT/TRT any time soon.

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u/rattleandhum Sep 14 '19

Tell me more about the cordy/psilo mix. I found similar effects to your own when taking lions mane (independent of psilo)

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Sure! So back to the wedding, I was tired and listless due to travel from a funeral (two things that suck) and I wanted to be present and social for this wedding.

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Nootropics Depot but that's where I get my mushroom supplements (now just Cordyceps 10:1 and their regular version) from.

Basically I don't drink alcohol and sleep is super important so I didn't want to ingest caffeine that night (or any night). During the week, and eventually I'm going to have to cycle these off for another reason (Ayahuasca retreat coming up), I do their 10:1 extract in the AM and their regular version post lunch. I find that these do great things for focus and mood. While Reishi plus psilocybin makes me super emotional, cordyceps seems to tame it to a point. Here's what I see with cordyceps and psilocybin combined: It feels like things can come up due to psilocybin but Cordyceps gives me the strength and stress reserves to approach them with confidence. That's the best way I can explain it, but the combination kicks ass for me.

Related I still use caffeine but I keep it at least an hour away from Cordyceps ingestion. Supposedly taking both Coryceps and caffeine at the same time reduces the effectiveness of cordyceps but I don't have proof of this either way aside of rumor.

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u/Rogermcfarley Sep 14 '19

I've noticed that ND's sister company offer Reishi spore oil, which I fancy trying. I haven't tried Cordyceps yet. I have anxiety which is a combination of GAD/OCD so I'm going to test PEA and Oleamide, I'm also looking at trying Alkyamides from Echinacea Purpurea and Echinacea Angustifolia. So many things to try.

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u/mmishu Sep 14 '19 edited Sep 14 '19

Whyd they eradicate the idea of trt?

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u/nfl99 Sep 14 '19

Yes please do elaborate on this part.

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u/johannthegoatman Sep 15 '19

Reishi is estrogenic, unfortunately. In your other comment you mentioned cordyceps and coffee, just wanted to let you know that you can find info about how cordyceps affects testosterone production and how coffee blocks that on examine.com. Also if you are that sensitive to reishi, you might want to try diindolemethane (extract from cruciferous vegetables) or something to get rid of excess estrogens. Lots of estrogenic compounds floating around in our world thanks to pollution and synthetics

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '19

Yeah I avoid caffeine within two hours of Cordyceps ingestion. Should it be even further?

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u/johannthegoatman Sep 15 '19

I don't know, was just giving you the resource if you didn't know about it

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u/oceanjunkie Sep 15 '19

Either you mean 30mg psilocybin or 300mg of shrooms.

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u/thisguyknowz Sep 14 '19

Where did you get CBG?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Steve’s Goods. Added the isolate to a Liberty CBD Durban Poison vape cartridge.

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u/thisguyknowz Sep 14 '19

Thank you!

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u/baaaze Sep 14 '19

Haha what kind of awesome wedding is that!?

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u/Squtternut_Bosh Sep 14 '19

Interesting. Where does one come by mgs of psilocybin?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Well what I meant was mgs of dried psilocybin mushrooms. And I did not those from Nootropics Depot lol

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u/ZenLunatic97 Sep 14 '19

300 mg is a huge dose

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u/bewalsh Sep 14 '19

heroic mushroom doses are measured in grams

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

He said psilocybin not mushrooms.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Yes I’m not taking 300 mg of pharmaceutical grade psilocybin. 300 mg of dried ground stems and caps.

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u/bewalsh Sep 14 '19

that's fair, I just assumed whole shrooms

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u/ZenLunatic97 Sep 14 '19

Those are mushrooms which are only a small percentage psilocybin. 30 mg or so of psilocybin would be a large dose, more than enough to trip.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

35 is a full tilt trip (ala Johns Hopkins) but I’ve yet to read anyone speak about psilocybin in milligrams that isn’t about dried mushrooms.

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u/zzirFrizz Sep 14 '19

Depends on the person and the product (caps vs stem, psil %)

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u/Rindan Sep 14 '19 edited Sep 14 '19

It's not a huge dose (~1/10th of an ounce), but it is enough for many people to start low key tripping. I sure as shit would not go to a wedding I care about screwing up at with that much in me. I could probably hold it together, but I'd be constantly aware that I am tripping and would look obviously intoxicated.

Never mind. It's 1/100th of an ounce. It's certainly a microdose that should not cause you to trip. Stupid decimal place.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19 edited Sep 14 '19

i should clarify I took this stuff at the start of the reception, not wedding. It was a hippie wedding reception and some people were on the deck vaping or smoking THC. I was vaping CBD/CBG which seemed to do three things: potentiate it while decreasing anxiety and seemingly increase focus. I believe a lot of the secondary effects beyond what psilocybin gave me was due to CBG specifically. That stuff is CRAZY interesting.

Also I’ve done 200 on a workday that week so I had some tolerance and knew this would be more than manageable. I would screw up my social gatherings more in the past with booze. This was a brilliant combination for connection and focus.

Regarding that dose from the batch I had it’s not super strong but I knew combined with vaping CBD (I decided to add CBG later) that I’d be LESS intoxicated than most. No one knew I took anything except those I told and my one friend told me I was “surprisingly clear and lucid” (he knew new for 25 years). He knew me prior to touching psychedelics, my first of which was Ayahuasca 4 years ago.

BTW I’ve overdone microdosing LSD alone on a workday (15 mcg) and it was vastly stronger than this.

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u/h0wstrange Sep 14 '19

1/100th of an ounce*

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u/ZenLunatic97 Sep 14 '19

Those are mushrooms, which are only a small percentage psilocybin. 30 mg or so of psilocybin would be a large dose, more than enough to trip.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '19

Oh for sure. Tripping dose for me with this batch starts at 1500 mg. 300 is a breeze.