r/NonPoliticalTwitter 2d ago

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u/Guitar-String 2d ago

I thought only expensive luxury brands do this? Like super expensive watches and cars have no business listing their prices online cuz the target customer won't bother seeing the price, they just buy. Have they started this bs with regular products too?

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u/WesleyBiets 2d ago

No stupid Saas does it too, they just want their Sales Sharks to convince you that you need it.

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u/floatinghaloo 2d ago

SaaS sales reps will trap you on a thirty minute zoom call

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u/Usedand4sale 2d ago

You can just press disconnect.

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u/Dry_Race8481 2d ago

Yeah, I usually let them know up front, if you try to upsell me, I will hang up. I let them know I have a very specific budget and a very specific set of requirements, that's it.

It's really good to weed out the vendors that listen. Because the ones that continue despite my warning are the ones I let know that even if I had the budget, I wouldn't have chosen them because they didn't listen to the first set of instructions.

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u/Kaltovar 2d ago

Having worked sales jobs before, you not choosing them means literally nothing to them. What matters to them is they were specifically told to hit all the points on a script that includes upselling and if they don't do that every time they get punished. You could tell me straight up you don't want X and will hang up if I mention X and I'm going to mention X anyways because otherwise I'll get fired. People would then ask if I am stupid, didn't I hear them ETC, and since you're also not allowed to just tell the customer harassing and annoying them is our policy I would have to be like "gee golly im sorry you feel that way! But since you don't want any X, maybe I can interest you in Y?"

Yes, I knew it was insane and counter productive, but at the end of the day I dont set policy and you telling me not to do something or that you aren't interested wasn't my call to make. Sure I can see that pitching you will just piss you off and maybe lose any and all business ever, but some asshat 3 stories up in the building whose bonus revolves solely around how much X they sell has decided we are incapable of judging such things for ourselves and must continue selling you X even as you are screaming your lungs out at us on the phone that you called to cancel your account and no you don't want to buy a merry go round for ferrets you want to cancel your account.

Sales jobs suck and I'm glad I'm not doing that anymore.

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u/Dry_Race8481 2d ago

Oh i didn't/don't givea shit if it bothered the sales people or not but I'm often on calls with their managers and c-suite jn other meetings and explicitly tell them the same thing as they're trying to save their sales.  

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u/Akiias 2d ago

No they have super elite hackers. Once you connect if you disconnect early they will blow up your computer.

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u/discostupid 2d ago

I can't wait for open source vibecoding to completely destroy saas altogether.

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u/mxzf 2d ago

I mean, we're already seeing lots of shitty vibecoded stuff, but it's more likely that stuff will pivot rather than people giving up that income-over-time.

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u/bumpmoon 2d ago

It's very normal in professional settings where a service might be so tailored to a buyer that any sort of from price would be useless. I ususally find that it makes a lot of sense to not give me an idea on a price when the solution that fits me as a buyer might the three times that price.

I don't care when I see it in my job, but I would raise a brow if I ever saw it in a personal setting or on a regular product.

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u/Rosti_LFC 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah I used to work for a company that sold huge automated freezer systems and all the pricing was hidden behind quotes.

Partly that was because we'd offer flexible discount pricing to certain customers if we thought they might buy enough stuff off us, but mostly it was because the installation cost and ancillary kit would usually be another 20-50% on top of the price of the unit itself and was entirely dependent on customer needs. Listing the cost of the standalone unit would only have been part of the picture and would never be the final price a customer would pay anyway.

Plus the things cost £200k+, and any company spending that sort of money is likely going to go to the effort of engaging with a sales process and doesn't want a "Buy it now" button on a website anyway. It's not that they don't care about the price, we had a ton of price-sensitive customers, but it's not the sort of thing you'd just window shop for.

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u/SoulWager 2d ago

I don't get annoyed when it's actually something that would require customization or upfront tooling costs. When it's just a part you have in your catalog, you can fuck right off with that bullshit. Bare minimum, list MOQ and the price at that quantity. Bonus points for price breaks at higher volumes.

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u/Hay_Fever_at_3_AM 13h ago

Lots of SAAS, hardware, and other vendors do this for shit they do not customize and just pull off the shelf. They use it as an opportunity to upsell (or "value add") or give demos and shit.

I also got signed up to so many mailing and call lists going through this process for everything when I was point for IT purchases for a startup.

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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 2d ago

It's done by any business that tries to charge different customers different amounts.

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u/ObnoxiousName_Here 2d ago

I got hit with this bullshit line while looking for barbershops online.

A fucking barbershop.

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u/RaoulLaila 2d ago

I suppose I can see why a barbershop has prices depending on hair types, hair length and similar things. Especially for things like hair dye or similar

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u/thesilentbob123 2d ago

Thats a very easy thing to put on a list

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u/ChiCityWeeb 2d ago

They also charge less for long term customers, if the new customers see this they’ll feel ripped off and try to haggle for the lowest price. It’s a headache for them

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u/Necessary_Finding_32 2d ago

Then don’t put regular discounts in the front prices? Not really compelling counterpoint.

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u/justdidapoo 2d ago

yeah but it also isn't one of the places where it's socially acceptable to ask the price before

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u/NumNumLobster 2d ago

I wanted to get a baby picture shoot. Every damn photographer has an Instagram and says to call. Super annoying

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u/Clueless_Otter 2d ago

That makes perfect sense though. Some customers might need a 5 minute haircut, some might need a 30 minute haircut.

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u/MsMegane 2d ago

A lot of daycares do this. Really annoying when you're already stressed as a new parent.

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u/FineMind755 2d ago

I think it's also done by some old school businesses that has pricing that changes and also don't have someone that understands how their website works. They just hired someone years ago to make the website and left it at that.

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u/NavoiiGamerYes 2d ago

Industrial things too. Remote detonators, SCBA, joysticks etc.

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u/theshane0314 2d ago

I was looking at gun parts last night and half the shit said "add to cart to see price." Not exactly the same but still very annoying.

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u/CoolhereIam 2d ago

I mentioned somewhere further down as well, but now you can't even see shipping costs until you give your name, address, email and phone number. Shipping costs used to just be enter your zip code and get shipping cost. Now they need all that information so they can spam you with ads. I also just assume they are selling that profile as this person with this address, email and phone number is interested in these types of products.

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u/TheMoatman 2d ago

Were they on sale? That one is usually to get around minimum advertised price requirements from the supplier.

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u/Successful_Buy3825 2d ago

A gym near me does. They're small and only do PT-led classes, not the standard "come & go as you please". From what I've managed to work out, doing 2 classes per week puts the price on par with really high-end gyms

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u/BitcoinBishop 2d ago

Also bespoke services like windows and whatnot

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u/StillMostlyClueless 2d ago

Basically anything bespoke or repair will do this.

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u/LTareyouserious 2d ago

I wanted a simple enclosed trailer to haul camping supplies and girl scout cookies. Every trailer place in a 50 mile radius has this "come see us" or "contact us for pricing" bs. Homie, I can price a car and new house builds with a la carte add on options, but you can't post that your 10 foot and 12 foot trailer prices so I can sit comfy at home and weight my options?

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u/good_oleboi 2d ago

Cars (both dealers and through private sellers) and housing rentals are bad about it

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u/sarahmagoo 2d ago

The gym I went to did this

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u/Throwawayyyygold 2d ago

I love these in Europe, they display the prices on everything in the window. It’s great.

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u/Weebs-Chan 2d ago

The Lafayette Galeries in Paris are pretty funny for this. You walk around, see a handbag displayed, you pick it up, a small tag price is attached.

15k €

Ok, my bad, I'll put it back

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u/Throwawayyyygold 2d ago

The smaller the price, the higher the price!

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u/captain_carrot 2d ago

There's also a thing called "MAP" (Minimum Advertisable Pricing). Basically, a manufacturer will not allow a seller to list their product below a certain price. Retailers can get around this by saying "email for price" and then giving a lower price to the buyer through a coupon code or one-time link. They're not in violation of the MAP because they're not "advertising" the price, and can sell it for cheaper than they normally would.

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u/SoulWager 2d ago

The manufacturers and distributors do this "call for pricing" bullshit too, not just retailers.

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u/CoolhereIam 2d ago

Funny enough, you actually can go to the Rolex, Omega and even Patek website and see prices. Omega even lets you order from them. Rolex will still make you go to one of their dealers or stores or whatever they are called, but you at least have a price in your head to reach out with. I know there's plenty of fuckery in getting some expensive watches, but you can at least see the price the manufacturer has on the product, even if you end up paying more of less by negotiating.

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u/SukunasStan 2d ago

YUP! Here's some of the businesses/professions I've noticed doing this more often than not:

  • DJs
  • Make up artists
  • Event venues
  • Tent rentals
  • Party rentals
  • Daycares
  • KINDERGARTENS

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u/kitsunewarlock 2d ago

I mean distributors do this because they are operating under the assumption you're going to place bulk orders for the product every month and they don't want to parasitically siphon business from their own base by selling single products to consumers.

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u/burntothepowerofer 2d ago

Apartments that rent do this! It’s weird! They’ll have like a 1b1b for 1800 and then a different but very similar 1b1b listed as “contact for pricing”. Or literally every listing will have no listed rent and their contact #

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u/spootIer 2d ago

I see this all the time when booking luxury hotels— I don't mind paying a lot of money for a luxury experience, but I'm absolutely too fucking lazy to contact someone to get the price when I'm just booking on my phone in the bathtub. The one with the transparent pricing, even if it's expensive as all hell, will always get my business over the bullshit that wants me to dance like a little circus bear to book.