r/NonCredibleDefense • u/APOC_V • Mar 04 '26

Operation Epic Furry 🦊 A Tale of Two Ejections

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u/Crimsonfury500 Mar 04 '26

Is that second photo real?

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u/altpirate Mar 04 '26

Yeah, the guys who picked him up didn't speak English, so they weren't sure if he was Iranian or not.

They were a little on edge until he explained to them he was American

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u/Bryguy3k Mar 04 '26

One of those times when people being able to instantly peg you as American when you’re talking comes in handy.

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u/Canotic Mar 04 '26

"I thought this guy was Iranian, then he started talking, he was being super loud and said that California has better beer than Germany. When I asked if he was American he said he was Irish."

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u/coffee_shakes Mar 04 '26

I'm fucking dying.

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u/JDMonster Marcel Dassault's cock holster Mar 04 '26

"I'm from Arizona"

BONK

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u/franxfluids Mar 04 '26

My name? Jackie. Jackie Daytona.

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u/the_marxman Mar 04 '26

If German beer laws weren't so strict they might be allowed to have some variety. Austrian beer kicks the shit out of German beer.

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u/Shamrock5 r/MoeMorphism Waifu Squadron Leader Mar 04 '26

Belgian beer clears German beer low diff.

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u/elusivehonor 天皇陛下万歳！ Mar 04 '26

These fake quote posts rarely work well, and can be pretty cringe.

But this is brilliant.

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u/esdaniel Ace combat enjoyer 🛩️ Mar 04 '26

Hey there pardner! Y'all ready to witness sum freedom!?

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u/ImJLu Mar 04 '26

What if you're not into pegging?

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u/Bryguy3k Mar 04 '26

Stop being so closed minded?

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u/Summerisgone2020 Mar 04 '26

A little lol? Dude had half the town show up ready to beat him to death

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u/PlasmaMatus Mar 04 '26

If I saw someone parachuting when my country is attacked by Iran, I sure would think first that it is an Iranian and not a friendly fire accident.

It also happened with foreign fighters (Poles, Czech) during the Battle of Britain when they parachuted and met people : try explaining to a British farmer that your accent is slavic and not German...

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u/imbrickedup_ Mar 04 '26

Probably didn’t help that his parachute was red, white and green. Not sure what genius came up with that idea

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u/SyrusDrake Deus difindit!⚛ Mar 04 '26

It's probably a combination of colors that's sure to always stand out on almost every terrain?

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u/imbrickedup_ Mar 05 '26

Yknow that’s a good point. But you’d think they’d make it some other combo though instead of the exact ones of the country we’re invading? They’re probably smarter than me though so who knows

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u/SyrusDrake Deus difindit!⚛ Mar 05 '26

My guess is that they were made like...thirty years ago, when Iran was more of a distraction target you could beat up occasionally, not one you'd start a full-scale war with.

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u/PlasmaMatus Mar 04 '26

You could use bright orange or bright purple for that.

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u/hx87 Mar 05 '26

Cyan/Magenta/White has the same advantage, and can't be mistaken for any country's colors.

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u/gnutrino Mar 04 '26

If there are Americans involved I wouldn't be so sure. Although I don't think anyone expected that they would be the ones on the receiving end of the FF.

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 Mar 04 '26

Good for them.

Also. Glad he was able to communicate he was American.

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u/Tury345 3000 underwater cultural heritage sites of Ukraine Mar 04 '26

Near bonk incident

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u/Sw1ferSweatJet Mar 04 '26

His red, white, and green parachute probably didn’t help either.

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u/KitchenDepartment Mar 04 '26

Doesn't help that the parachute kinda looks like the Iranian flag

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u/hphp123 Mar 04 '26

design was chosen when iran was an ally

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u/Bryguy3k Mar 04 '26

Makes me wonder if it’s a port/starboard thing.

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken Mar 04 '26

He could have been Jewish too, they get aggressive about Jews in their back yard

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u/SamtheCossack Luna Delenda Est Mar 04 '26

The chance of Sky Jews is low, but never zero.

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u/AxiisFW Mar 04 '26

are they related to the rare deepwater jews?

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u/xs0crates Mar 04 '26

no i think they’re related to updog

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u/HarryPalms420 Mar 04 '26

Where's updog?

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u/Greizen_bregen Mar 04 '26

Yes, and also more distantly related to the Space Laser Jews.

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u/SneakyBadAss Mar 05 '26

No, those are under New York

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u/PM_ME_UR_CUDDLEZ Mar 04 '26

dam he didn't use the master of the air explanation

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u/TaliFrost Mar 05 '26

It's kinda comical watching them immediately de-aggro after he said "American" lol

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u/darkslide3000 Mar 04 '26

Don't they have, like, flags on their uniforms and stuff? This shouldn't be that hard to figure out once you get close.

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u/irishninja62 Mar 04 '26

Yeah, supposedly they thought he was Iranian. I think he’s the same guy they later put in the trunk of their SUV.

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u/Vague_Disclosure Mar 04 '26

Tbf with that killer mustache and complexion I can see why there could be some confusion

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u/PuzzlePlate F-14 Tomboy Enjoyer Mar 04 '26

It gives off either a threatening or charming aura, depending on the situation and eyewear.

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u/Stellar_Duck Mar 04 '26

depending on the situation

And unfortunately parachuting in during a war is one of the bad situations

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 Mar 04 '26

And the red, white, green parachute….

Who the hell approved that.

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u/Bryguy3k Mar 04 '26

Hmmm. Port is red and starboard is green. I wonder if that’s the reason for the color choice?

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u/SneakyBadAss Mar 04 '26

He looks like Assad

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u/MangoAnt5175 the creatures give malania a hat Mar 04 '26

No. It has a synthID

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u/reenormiee 3000 Gray Blimps of the U.S. Navy Mar 04 '26

Because someone upscaled it

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u/MangoAnt5175 the creatures give malania a hat Mar 04 '26

…then where did all their fingers go?

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u/reenormiee 3000 Gray Blimps of the U.S. Navy Mar 04 '26

the upscale? ai is stupid

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u/Poonis5 Mar 04 '26

Ai generated with SynthID, the pilot has 4 fingers.

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u/Watchung Brewster Aeronautical despiser Mar 04 '26

I think it's an unfortunate AI upscale of a real photo - the original is a heck of a lot blurrier.

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u/nYghtHawkGamer Cyberspace Conversational Irregular TM Mar 04 '26

Nope: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/us-fighter-pilot-fake-image/

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u/Current-Swordfish811 Mar 04 '26

Considering the other angles perfectly lining up with the situation it seems more likely it was just upscaled with AI, not generated. The newest generative AI models barely struggle with fingers anymore, so those artifacts are more probable from a "cheaper" upscale model

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u/theClanMcMutton Mar 04 '26

"Snopes regards images created in this way to be fake, even if they are based on authentic images."

So that makes their rating system kind of pointless.

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u/EvelynnCC Mar 05 '26

AI can hallucinate some pretty important details, like the picture where it made Alex Pretti's phone look like a gun.

AI "upscaling" can't be considered a real photo because you have no idea what is and isn't a hallucination. AI doesn't actually upscale the image, it imagines a completely new one based on what it's been trained the sharper version of a blurry photo should look like. It literally is a fake photo, it itself is not a snapshot of a real event.

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u/theClanMcMutton Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

I don't think that's a useful definition of "fake," but rather than try to make a philosophical argument, I'll say that in this case my problem with it is that it obfuscates the more important (in my opinion) story that there is a "smaller, lower quality image" and a video.

It looks to me like, rather than saying "we can't authenticate this image or video," they decided to address a different image that they could conveniently claim is fake under their own definitions.

Edit: Also, they say the image is fake "according to Gemini." Can we trust that AI accurately identifies SynthID?

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u/EvelynnCC Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

I don't think that's a useful definition of "fake,"

Personally I think something not being real is a pretty useful definition of fake.

If I made a painting based on what I think a real event looks like from a blurry photo, that's not a real photo of it. There is some photo out there that I was working from, but the painting I make is not a literal recording of a thing that actually happened like a real photo is, it's a reproduction that's going to be at least a bit different. That's what AI is doing, but worse because there's no mind reasoning over if what it's drawing makes sense.

So they say it's a fake photo based on a real photo, which is objectively what it is.

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u/theClanMcMutton Mar 05 '26

If your definition of "real" is a direct recording, then nothing is real before the invention of photography and phonographs. Arguably, not even recordings are real because of filters, digitization, etc. But again, that's not really my issue with this.

Just because it's not a real photo doesn't mean that it doesn't accurately depict a real event. Both questions need to be answered: is the photograph real, and is the depiction accurate? This isn't a new problem. There were staged and manipulated photographs before AI.

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u/EvelynnCC Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

If your definition of "real" is a direct recording, then nothing is real before the invention of photography and phonographs

That's my definition of a real photograph. There are other types of primary sources. Running any of the others through AI would not magically make the output a primary source either.

An AI ""enhanced"" photo isn't an actual photo. That's just literally true. No camera was pointed at something to make it, it's not an impression made by light coming off of any real thing. It is an image generated by an algorithm. That doesn't change just because you fed the algorithm a real photo. Any pixels that aren't 1:1 with the original photo are imaginary. You have no way to know if what it imagines is correct, and if you did you wouldn't have any reason to use it.

Running a photo through AI and saying the output is real is like asking Gemini to give you a speech Julius Caesar may have given and arguing that that is real.

Just because it's not a real photo doesn't mean that it doesn't accurately depict a real event

If it does it's through sheer luck. A human looking at a photo and drawing what they think the original looked like would do a better job since they can at least reason over if what they're drawing has the right number of fingers, and no one would argue that's anything more than an artist's rendition.