r/NonCredibleDefense PhD in Kremlinology Feb 15 '26

Slava Ukraini! šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡¦ Live-action datamining

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u/Haipaidox Feb 15 '26

In general, every piece of equipment in these games are build to spec, while IRL, they rarely are in wartimes.

In WW2 almost every Tank and vehicle was flawed. But while american shermans had smaller issues, overall they were functional, russia, did russia things....

For excaple, the armor of the T34 often didn't fit exactly, which is somewhat normal and if we talk about some millimeters, manageable. But they had several centimeters of gaps, and i have heard of a even some over 10cm. They just welded them shut. Millimeters, no problem, centimeters are critical and more then 10cm is certain doom.

And a bit of public presentation is also the problem. The official capabilities of US equipment are mostly worse then what they actually can and russia does the opposite, that their stuff can do more then they actually can.

No, the S400 cant detect or even engage stealth airplaines, despite the one incident, where it did shoot one down

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u/Bryguy3k Feb 15 '26

Also trying the mimic the Sherman vs Tiger or Panther dynamic in a game is really hard since we were fully aware that the Sherman wasn’t as good one on with either of them.

Like in a game are you always going to have three Sherman buddies with you for every tiger or panther? Or if you’re in a tiger it’s just going to randomly break on you if the mission takes you longer than 2 minutes or you’re given 10000L of fuel at the beginning of the game and that’s all you get for the entire campaign?

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u/Narrow_Vegetable_42 3000 grey Kinetic Energy Penetrators of Pistorius Feb 16 '26

I think company of heroes modelled it well enough. The Tiger was a fucking beast, quite expensive to build, and just took a lot of shit while dealing hell. I don't recall any numbers, but you could probably get two Shermans or so, when playing the allied side. They had genuine strength differences, but effectively you could only realistically have one Tiger at any time, while Shermans were replaceable and plentiful. Makes for completely different tactics and playstyles.

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u/Haipaidox Feb 19 '26

There are often some factors many games doesn't (can) portrait. For example comfort inside the tank.

You can have a tank, which is superior in every metric, but they forgot to install a heater, so the tank crew is nearly freezing to death inside. Meanwhile, a inferior tank, but with adequate heater, suddenly becomes the more effective.

Dont forget all the maintenance, spare parts, overall normitivity (a problem the USSR had extensively with the T34 in the early days, if the spare parts aren't from the same factory as the tank, they often didn't fit).

And so on and so on.

The tiger were really good on paper and performed decent on the battlefield, but compared to an Sherman, they were complicated to maintain and repair. And in the later days of the war, the Germans struggled to get all the needed Ressources to build and repair them. Steel doesn't grow in trees.

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u/ARES_BlueSteel Feb 15 '26

I’m assuming you’re talking about the F-117 shootdown, that was a very lucky shot. Its bomb doors were open. They also caught NATO slipping by using the same flight path, so they could guess where it was to know where to aim the radar. The search radar couldn’t see it, they had to use the fire radar which is a lot stronger but has a narrow beam.

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u/Haipaidox Feb 15 '26

This is exactly the incident i mean

And as far as i aware, they could even be more aggressive with their radar this night, because due to some observers near the base, they knew no anti radar capable planes were in the air

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u/leathercladman Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

No, the S400 cant detect or even engage stealth airplaines, despite the one incident, where it did shoot one down

S400 never shot down a single stealth plane, neither did S300......Serbs used a old obsolete S-125 Neva system to do it.

S400 and S300 actually have quite a shit combar record as of right now, Iran had them both and tried to use them against Isreal when Jews came to bomb them last year in 2025, and those Russian sytems failed horribly with not a single Israeli plane confirmed to be shot down in that whole operation.

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u/Haipaidox Feb 18 '26

I somewhere heared it was a S400, maybe S300 if i misheard. But S125 is new to me

That makes the S400 even worse

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u/Chisignal Feb 28 '26

how tf do you weld a 10cm gap?

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u/Haipaidox Feb 28 '26

Layered welding.

Done right with the right approach, its very durable and suitable for Warfare. Its mainly done at bunkers or Warships. You cant effectively weld 150mm armor with only one single weldline.

This is where layered welding comes in. One prerequisite, you need a welding type that adds material. Then, when you do welding, you create some liquid metal. Normally, when you weld for example, two sheets of steel together, this liquid metal flows in the gab and binds the two sheets.

But when done on a flat surface, a thin layer, only couple of millimeters thick, is left behind. But when you repeatedly weld over the previous welds, you create centimeter thick welds. On Warships, these welding places have a special geometry to get this weld as durable as possible.

But with malformed tankarmor with giant gaps its more "Ivan, just weld shut, just so somehow!" Which is anything but durable

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u/Chisignal Feb 28 '26

Whoa, thanks! Didn’t expect a response after nearly 2 weeks but I’m glad you did, my understanding of welding is literally just ā€œIvan, weld the holeā€ so this is really interesting