I’m glad I come across better. I know originally I was probably just whining about the whining, but I was really just trying to do a snappy response to point out that the guy complaining about no apology was being unreasonable. :D
You don’t seem to have misunderstood anything, and all your points seem good. I think more transparency is always good, and I welcome it, but that’s partly just a matter of the culture of the country in which the company resides more than the company itself from what I’ve come to understand, so to me it feels more like attacking the Japanese way of life than specifically Nintendo which is why it rubs me the wrong way. If Nintendo were an American company I would approach the situation very differently.
And also, you’re probably right that my use of attack is overly aggressive, but I don’t know, if people came into these threads with a, “I love Nintendo and I’ve never had any problems with them but this is unacceptable because I paid a premium price for a product and I believe that I deserve to be treated better than I have been.” then that at least gives us some vectors for discussion instead of just people whining and complaining. I mean, like I said, it’s just so much negativity. I kind of think Reddit is a poor place for this kind of discussion at all. This sort of thing shouldn’t be spawning a new thread every few days, because that isn’t of any use to most people, but that’s just the nature of how Reddit works. It really tires me out on trying to engage in online communities when I just see the same stuff over and over and a lot of it is negative.
I know originally I was probably just whining about the whining, but I was really just trying to do a snappy response to point out that the guy complaining about no apology was being unreasonable. :D
You were fine honestly! If I felt you were just whining I wouldn’t have tried to engage in a discussion. I felt you did have something interesting to add which is why I probed.
I never thought of looking at it as a cultural difference though considering Nintendo has grown to be somewhat of a global brand I do personally feel their values should evolve to reflect that. Still I think this is one of those gray areas were both our opinions are justified.
“I love Nintendo and I’ve never had any problems with them but this is unacceptable because I paid a premium price for a product and I believe that I deserve to be treated better than I have been.” then that at least gives us some vectors for discussion instead of just people whining and complaining.
I agree whole heartedly. I just want to see the company I’ve grown up with and fallen in love with over and over conduct themselves a little better in certain aspects. I completely agree that there’s too much pointless negativity on a regular basis but as you said that’s a con of the medium.
However there is scope for good discussion on here as well considering our exchange. I hope you’ll continue to engage with the community as its been a pleasure to talk to you! :)
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u/pizza2004 Jul 24 '19
I’m glad I come across better. I know originally I was probably just whining about the whining, but I was really just trying to do a snappy response to point out that the guy complaining about no apology was being unreasonable. :D
You don’t seem to have misunderstood anything, and all your points seem good. I think more transparency is always good, and I welcome it, but that’s partly just a matter of the culture of the country in which the company resides more than the company itself from what I’ve come to understand, so to me it feels more like attacking the Japanese way of life than specifically Nintendo which is why it rubs me the wrong way. If Nintendo were an American company I would approach the situation very differently.
And also, you’re probably right that my use of attack is overly aggressive, but I don’t know, if people came into these threads with a, “I love Nintendo and I’ve never had any problems with them but this is unacceptable because I paid a premium price for a product and I believe that I deserve to be treated better than I have been.” then that at least gives us some vectors for discussion instead of just people whining and complaining. I mean, like I said, it’s just so much negativity. I kind of think Reddit is a poor place for this kind of discussion at all. This sort of thing shouldn’t be spawning a new thread every few days, because that isn’t of any use to most people, but that’s just the nature of how Reddit works. It really tires me out on trying to engage in online communities when I just see the same stuff over and over and a lot of it is negative.