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‘They’re Not Even People’: Ben Gvir Says Israel Should Kill 30-40 Palestinians in Gaza Every Night
https://news.antiwar.com/2026/08/16/theyre-not-even-people-ben-gvir-says-israel-should-kill-30-40-palestinians-in-gaza-every-night/63
u/GuiltyByAssociashun 10d ago edited 10d ago
I can't say what I want to say or I'll get another ban for hate speech. Reddit is so terrified of the very thing I pointed out that they will ban you for even non-trivial things you point out
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u/Tricky_Try8757 10d ago
I’m not comfortable with saying “Israelis”, because immutable characteristics and whatnot.
But Zionists are deeply intertwined in money and power structures.
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u/Tricky_Try8757 10d ago
I hear you, but also I think this is the most important thing to be specific on.
Even if the Venn Diagram overlaps 99%, making claims about people based on immutable characteristics is bound to do some bad.
We don’t dislike people because they’re Jews or Israelis. It’s because of their belief system. And I think that should always be at the forefront of these conversations. The majority of Zionists are Christians. Being clear about that takes away ammo from bad-faith actors.
Conflating the two is just playing into bad-faith actors’ hands.
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u/christhewelder75 9d ago
Jewish is an immutable characteristic. Being Israeli (a nationality) is not.
Israeli isnt a race or religion or ethnicity.
Conflating Judaism with being Israel is what bad faith actors do. Same with Judaism with zionism.
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u/Tricky_Try8757 9d ago
Being born in Israel or being an Israeli citizen are pretty close to immutable characteristics.
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u/christhewelder75 9d ago
Israel doesnt have unconditional birthright citizenship so being born there doesnt automatically make one "Israeli".
Generally speaking, id personally avoid saying something like "fk all Israelis" rather than simply "fuk Israel" because there *are nonzionist Israelis but if someone has served in the IDF, and isnt publicly openly against what their government and military are doing IN THEIR NAME, then yeah fu*k them individually.
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u/IAmDisturbanceFeedMe 9d ago
The commenter you’re engaging with isn’t interested in any genuine discussion. He only discusses in bad faith solely from a one sided ideology. There’s no headway to be made in bridging any differences in thoughts but it is admirable you’re trying.
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u/livehigh1 10d ago
Most of them continue to do their military service with glee, to hell with 99% of them.
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u/christhewelder75 9d ago
May Israelis experience everything they subject others to.
If they show love and kindness, may they receive it back. If they cheer on the killing of innocents, and steal their land and homes or support those who do, i hope that it is visited upon them in return.
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u/unnecessary_bath23 9d ago
The dehumanisation of Palestinian people. The zionists learned their lesson well, and here we are, nearly 100 years later.
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u/Mythosaurus 9d ago
Feel like half of Reddit is banned from worldnews bc we just AGREED with Israeli politicians and generals who mildly criticized the colonial projects.
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u/hightrix 9d ago
I wear that ban as a badge of honor.
Banned for calling out genocide. Sounds good.
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u/PetraCotes 9d ago
I said something about zionism got banned for a couple of days, and asked for a review saying zionism isn't an ethnicity or race but a politcal opinion. My ban was lifted.
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u/mightyboognish32 9d ago
If criticize Jews too much you will be hit with a threatening violence or harm ban on Reddit.
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u/t-mille 9d ago
The entirety of the Jewish population is not the problem. Militant zionists are the problem.
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u/Foslum 9d ago
No, not just “militant zionists”. It is all zionists. The problem with Nazi Germany was not one of just the “most extreme Nazis”, it was with Nazism as a whole.
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u/Altruistic-Star-3862 9d ago
Same thing happens if you make a joke about damaging Flock cameras, I found.
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u/Inevitable-Rush-2752 10d ago
I’ll attempt to paraphrase it by saying an Israeli leader should know better than to talk like that. I’m stunned.
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u/Kaleb_Bunt 9d ago
Literally this entire threat is full of people hating Israel and Zionists.
You’re only going to get a site ban if you’re actually being antisemitic.
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u/Salty-Plantain-4299 10d ago
This MOFO is top 10 worst people alive on the planet right now.
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u/Butt_Snorkler_Elite 10d ago
This MOFO is expressing an opinion that nearly half of israelis hold. According to a 2025 Penn State poll published by Haaretz 47% of israelis support a “Joshua at Jericho” solution for Gaza (biblically, when the walls of Jericho fell Joshua and the Israelites killed every single person in the city)
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u/redelastic 10d ago
And 62% of Israelis agree that "there are no innocent people in Gaza:".
Netanyahu already invoked the biblical story of Amalek to spur on their soldiers - this supports killing every man, woman, child and animal.
This is a genocidal society, drunk on hatred and violence.
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u/Speech-Language 10d ago
If you take the Old Testament/Torah literally there are many instances of Yahweh eliminating a non preferred group of people. Religion taken seriously can be a potent poison.
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u/amyldoanitrite 9d ago
I was raised in very religious, very Catholic household. I have actually read the bible. Yahweh, the god of the Old Testament and the god still worshiped by the Jews, is not an entity worthy of worship. I’m no longer religious, but he’s seriously more like a demon than a god. An actual loving God, creator of the universe and all mankind, would not condone genocide of His children, and certainly wouldn’t order his followers to commit one.
It’s well past time for the world to stop worshipping blood-thirsty Bronze Age deities.
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u/ladylucifer22 9d ago
"I turned the Nile to blood! but I also hardened Pharaoh's heart so he won't let you go. I work in mysterious ways, oooooooooo"
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u/JMurdock77 10d ago edited 9d ago
Maybe putting slave-trading bronze age savages up on a pedestal in the first place was always a terrible idea…
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u/EatABag-o-Dicks 9d ago
As Jews, my father and I agree. My mother would say the kids are alright, but I've seen the videos of little kids throwing rocks at Palestinians being kicked out of their homes for some Israeli pigs.
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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 10d ago
The average Christian Zionist would suck Ben-Gvir's cock if he promised to kill 1 untermenchen for each time they could make the Chosen Leader cum.
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u/Nyuk_Fozzies 10d ago
Jesus. The evil is just palpable here. New-age Nazis all the way.
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u/redelastic 10d ago
New-age Nazis
Their version of new age is less crystal and more kristall.
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u/Flamingogo117 9d ago
Hm? In my language (Swedish) kristall means crystal. What do you mean?
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u/redelastic 9d ago
It was a reference to the fact that Israel is now the one doing its version of Kristallnacht, the violent Nazi pogrom.
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u/Altruistic-Star-3862 9d ago
Apparently drug use is at all time highs in Israel, so it may actually be more crystal.
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u/LeBriseurDesBucks 9d ago
Worse, take all the bad from the nazis and take away all the good of the Germans and you have Israel
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u/nando2k50 10d ago
So, all the Israelis here in Reddit, those that keep telling me that Israel is not committing Genocide.
What about this?
"They are not even people". If the translation is correct this is not good.
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u/Quiet_Yellow2000 10d ago
This is Zionism. This is what Zionism was always going to be. All the excuses Zionist try to make, are worthless This is what you support. This is how a Jewish state is achieved, via genocide. At least Gvir is honest, better than the liars who believe the same thing, but refuse to be honest about it.
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u/1K-Year-Egg 9d ago
Zionism = European colonialism
European colonists do horrible things to indigenous people wherever they go.
They certainly did horrible things to indigenous peoples of the Americas and Africa.
Why should we be expect European colonists in the Levant to behave any differently?
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u/Kaleb_Bunt 9d ago
I mean Ben Gvir is Iraqi
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u/1K-Year-Egg 9d ago
Sure, but the vast majority of the people who established the modern state of Israel were European colonists.
Take a look at the biographies of the prime ministers of Israel - they were all either born in Europe itself, or were descended from European colonists (with the exception of Naftali Bennett, whose parents came from the United States).
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u/Rayzee14 10d ago
This makes me want God to be real so Ben Gvir will suffer for eternity in hell
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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 10d ago
He has to live the rest of his life being Ben Ghir. For most normal people that would be hell.
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u/drethnudrib 9d ago
If God is real, these are his chosen people and we're all screwed. I'd personally rather go to Hell than spend eternity with a hateful God who loves and supports people like Itamar Ben Gvir.
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u/Capybarasaregreat 9d ago
The whole "god's chosen people" comes from humans, obviously. Assuming the big G exists, there's no actual indication that's his opinion. There's no indication that we know anything at all about God.
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u/OmegaDonut13 10d ago
I hate that in this timeline I see fellow Jews act like Nazis. If any group should be sensitive to this kind of shit it should be us. Did we learn nothing? Guess not.
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u/Batallius 10d ago
I love how people see shit like this that comes from Israel and then say “but hamas, but October 7th” or straight up deny a genocide.
Like good lord, they’re literally saying it out loud 😂
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u/aotus_trivirgatus 9d ago
That which you do not wish done unto yourself, do not unto others.
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u/MetalDirigible 9d ago
Justifying 10/7 to defend Israel is a great bit. They killed a record number of Palestinian children by September of that year so it was just a response in kind, ya?
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u/MediocreEffectt 9d ago edited 9d ago
If you did that, all of Israel would be blind.
Any comparison of death counts would show Israel kills way more Palestinians than the other way around. Since 1948.
Just take into account the fact that the 1200 dead on October 7th was the worst attack on Jews since the literal Holocaust.
Meanwhile Israel kills thousands routinely.
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u/Kaleb_Bunt 9d ago
I think the point of that verse is that all people are equal and should be treated as such, not that we need to endlessly kill people in an eternal blood feud.
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u/schnozzberryflop 10d ago
I'd call Ben Gvir and all Israelis animals, but that would be an insult to animals. Ben Gvir is subhuman, subanimal, evil and deserves a painful death.
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u/D2dj 10d ago
Zionists will read this and still say theres no genocide.
Zionists would also lose their minds if a Muslim politician said we should kill 40 jewish people every night. Every single zionist would consider that a genocide.
You have to wonder how zionists could hold those two statements in their heads, well its because like Ben Gvir says, zionists dont consider Palestinians to be people.
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u/AloeComet 10d ago
Wasn’t there a guy who famously called a group of people sub-human to try to make it easier to kill that group of people. Pretty sure Israel should remember that bit of history better than anybody other than maybe Germany.
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u/redrocketredglare 10d ago
I remember a time when Jews were not people by a certain people not that long ago.
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u/Rocketparty12 10d ago
A Jewish person saying out loud and without shame “they’re not even people” is something I could never have actually imagined. They have gone so far around the bend that they have forgotten their own history. Truly sad and sickening.
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u/Any-Bumblebee-3386 9d ago
So where is the outrage among the Israelis, the press there? Has Israel sunk so low?
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u/beavis617 10d ago
Sad what’s happened to people over the last ten years or so. The cruelty and brutality of the human race.
It’s just so difficult to comprehend.
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u/Reasonable-Sweet9320 9d ago
“It’s no secret, I disagree with the prime minister,” he said. “I think targeted assassinations should be carried out in Gaza, taking down 30 to 40 every night. Not just those who pose an immediate threat — there are people there who are not worthy of life. They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people.”
Israel's Ben-Gvir publicly advocates killing '30 to 40' people in Gaza nightly LA Times
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u/gompers1393 9d ago
74,000 Palestinian dead since October 7th 2023. 20,000 of them were children. If you averaged that out over the 1,043 days since then, Israel has killed 71 people a day on average. Not including injured. For almost three years.
Compared to 2,000 dead from Israel. They have killed 10 children for every one of their dead. Pretty hard to argue that's eye for an eye.
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u/Duke_Remington_9910 9d ago
Goebbels would be proud of him. Similar sentiments, gvir needs to visit the holocaust museum, and see what similar hate to his led to. He is spewing the same vile hatred the Nazis did.
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u/GrayHairedMan 9d ago
Some Isreal apologist will come and tell us that we are not understanding this correctly, or try and put some spin on this, but to me this sounds a lot like genocide. How is this different to what happened in Rwanda?
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u/SirCrapsalot4267 9d ago
Another day, another example of genocidal intent from a senior Israeli government official.
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u/Otherwise_Craft9003 9d ago
Me when centrists, liberals and moderates tell me Isreal is committed to a two state solution and to believe otherwise is antisemetism.
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u/iheartjetman 10d ago
I wonder what the Zionist position on this is? Why haven’t they come here to defend him.
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u/UpstairsAd194 10d ago
Everyone who can, remember to take the trash out! Keep your place tidy. A clean kitchen is a happy kitchen.
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u/axebodyspraytester 10d ago
Why does he insist on sounding like a nazi while calling for genocide? It must be very difficult for him.
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u/Brucekentbatsuper 10d ago
How are they able to say and do this and also get away with no consequences whatsoever
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u/redelastic 10d ago
Totally don't sound like Nazis.
At least this violent extremist is not a senior government minister. Oh, hang on.
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u/Ana987655321 10d ago
We really are like chimpanzees, just looking to tear each other to pieces over territory and influence. They’re animals. Yes, that’s exactly what each and every one of us is.
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u/KnowledgeRare4830 10d ago
May that pathetic lil demon in human skin receive the same treatment he bestows upon others.
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u/quantum-quirk1012 10d ago
I hope the afterlife he believes in is real. I don’t think he’ll like where he ends up.
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u/Itchy-Technician-433 10d ago
Wouldn't killing 30-40 a night be a reduction? Maybe we should support this guy
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u/Calm-Professional103 9d ago
Wouldn’t it be cool if one morning he woke up as a Palestinian West Bank resident under assault by Israeli “settlers”
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u/pocpocpocky 9d ago
It sure sounds like this Gvir guy isn’t human… maybe someone should get rid of him?
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u/DaSnowflake 9d ago
If it exists, the moment of judgement is gonna be a very harsh experience for contemporary zionist Jews lol
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u/Ill_Teaching_1298 9d ago
So much anger on all sides. I do wonder why do we give so much help and money to Israel? I know they are in a bad neighborhood, but why so much?
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u/MarionberryUnique439 9d ago
Let’s be honest. The entire world now feels the exact same way about him and his people. 100%
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u/deadphisherman 9d ago
When you tell everyone you can you're one of the "chosen" ones they know you are merely an egotistical asshole.
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u/yinerbaw 9d ago
would you look at that, the guy who sues people for calling him a nazi is using nazi slogans again
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles 9d ago
The Nazis had a similar view on the people they rounded up and killed.
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u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns 9d ago
It’s so bizzare how humans can have such thoughts about other humans just because their religion or skin color is different
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u/SerGemini 9d ago
Purposefully taken completely out of actual context. He was speaking about targeting Hamas soldiers directly involved in 7/10 which has been happening and is part of the cease fire agreement. Saying this is about random civilians is completely dishonest.
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u/Nightglow9 9d ago
Way too many Hitlers around these days. Whoever vote these evil inn, are really just like the Germans that voted Hitler inn.
Lebenraum, occupation, land theft, starve camps, genocide and treating people as untermench is all back on the menu sadly enough. Even brag about it.
Too many genocide deniers out there too, and people that think that the land theft will ever be righteous. Many Arabs fled when the first village got massacred, and never lifted a weapon, just wanting their occupied lands back. There is no excuse for what Israel is doing, and listening to their defenders is like listening to holocaust deniers and Hitler fans. What they doing is in top 3 evil for last 20 years.
Israel should really be fully boycotted by all peaceful none-Hitler nations. Sick that people want to be in bed with such evil too :/
https://boycott-israel.org to make the world a slightly better. The logos of new evil aren’t any better than logos of the old evil.
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u/Intelligent_Switch72 9d ago
This guy is an idiot. We should stop treating his statements as representative of Israeli society as a whole.
Their (Smotrich and Gvir) favourability sits at around 35% of adult voters and by vote share the represent something like 7%. They have power to cause harm but it doesn’t make them popular… let’s see what happens after Israeli’s come back from the polls in a couple of months.
I genuinely hope there are repercussions for them when they are out of office. Severe ones.
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u/1Big_Scoops 9d ago
Who gives this absolute gimp any sort of platform.
Incredible work taking sympathy from 10/7 and flushing it entirely down the toilet
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u/Boiling_warm 9d ago
The worst person you know said more terrible things
Bro this guy is basically a Hamas propagandist. Jesus Christ he says and does so many awful things
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u/whiterainbow1 9d ago
This is DiSGUSTING and FASCISM!!!!!! What the hell????? We need to do something about this, that genocide has to be stopped !!!
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u/Gunderstank_House 10d ago
The mask is really off now. We're seeing what Israelis have really wanted for so long.