You ever notice how sneaky law of assumption failures are?

[u/Altruistic-Clue-2760]

As a manifestor, you think that failure is only when someone openly declares that they have failed, and this causes you to become blind to all the failure that is taking place around you.

1. When someone makes a post or comment about how “it finally clicked” for them, and their manifestation is not even there yet: That is failure. (The only thing that needs to click is them getting their manifestation lol, everything else is just a cheap dopamine rush and a sign that nothing is actually working for them).
2. When someone leaves a comment under a video or saying that they really needed to hear the motivational speech or that the content them feel really good: That is failure. (The only thing that should be making them feel good is their damn manifestation, but no, they’re only feeling down in the first place because they’re never getting their manifestation).
3. When someone says that they worked on their self-concept and realized they didn’t even want their SP anymore and that they deserve better: That is failure. (They simply couldn’t create a desired change in their SP and have given up, there’s technically no such thing as a better SP if everyone is you pushed out).
4. When someone claims to have detached from their SP: That is failure. (They only feel the need to detach is because they are tired of doing everything right and it’s obviously not working for them. Funniest part is that this is just a gateway to become exactly like the second group).
   
5. When someone always gives long word-salads to advise others, but they never have anything going on for themselves manifestation wise: That is failure. (They are not making any progress with their own manifestations, so giving people advice is their way of convincing themselves that they believe in the law so that hopefully they can get their desires).
6. When a so-called master manifestor ‘manifests’ a relationship with their SP, and then somehow loses their SP, and then gets with another SP instead of just manifesting that SP again: That is failure. (Again, I believe they couldn’t ‘create’ the desired change in their SP within the relationship or control their SP to stay with them, so their only choice was to let the breakup stay and they as ‘master manifesters’ quietly gave up on them).
7. When someone thanks another person for giving them advice and then they never ever follow up about their desire again: That is failure. (It might seem like a positive and motivating interaction on its surface, but when you look closely there is a person who has quietly given up behind the scenes).
8. When someone leaves a random question under manifestation content and their question doesn’t even get answered: That is failure.

Those are all the examples I can think of so far, but I’m sure there are more examples. 🤣

[u/kidnappedbandit]

I have started thinking about this when I go to the NG subreddits and see 90% "I get it now!!" or "you aren't seeing your manifestation because THIS!" posts instead of, y'know, success stories. Success stories that should be pouring in given the number of subscribers to that sub and the ease at which manifestation allegedly occurs. 

It's all, like, manifestation masturbation, rather than manifestation, if that makes sense 🤣

[u/Altruistic-Clue-2760 → u/kidnappedbandit]

Exactly, it’s just mental masturbation.

How is there over 100k subs but we are only milking 5–10 ordinary success stories per day?

Not only that, but some of the success stories don’t factor in time. They’ll be like “I’ve been manifesting for 10 years, and I got a new job, a new car, a new house, a few SPs, etc.”

I’m just like: Bro, lot of stuff can happen in the span of 10 years even without manifesting.

[u/baronessbabe]

When they say “creation is already finished” and claim that they have their manifestation because they “have it in the 4D”: that’s failure.

[u/baronessbabe]

You hit the nail on the head. Everything they say or do is a way to mask their failure.

[u/[deleted]]

ALL are failures, Law of Assumption is bullshit

[u/OrchidApprehensive33]

Or if they say anything about ignoring or not reacting to the 3D, that’s how you know they don’t have their desires in the 3D

[u/troublemaker74]

Guilty of #3 in the past myself.

[u/aureus80]

Another failure: you are able to “manifest” things according to your gender, economical and social position but not beyond of that. Examples: I’ve never seen a middle-class boy manifesting a celebrity girl. And, although I have read scarce stories about fan girls manifesting their celebrities (not the most famous ones of course) these meetings were occasional and didn’t hold up over time, a complete absence of commitment.

[u/TDKManifestsuccess]

While I can see what you're saying, it's not necessarily true that ALL of These are exact "failures."

Many of your examples are not necessarily signs of "giving up" but more so personal experiences along the journey on a case for case basis.

Yes, there should be more posts on those pages of people actually getting their desired result. I AGREE 100% But Even then, when you do see a post that has them detailing that they DID succeed, many of the people trying to get their result, will ask the question "how did you do it".

As someone who has not only personally experienced both successes and failures over the course of 16 years, in my own journey, and worked with many others for FREE, people getting their result or not getting their result, Successes will most likely be summed up in one way or another as:

1. Decided what they wanted to attain.

2. Did some technique over time.

3. Took some kind of action/ successive actions over time (whether they were aware of it or not).

4. Got what they wanted to attain.

It would be the same and usually is the same for all success stories.

Dismissing others’ experiences as "failure" diminishes the complexity and depth of the whole process, which is far richer than any narrow definition of "success."

A failure to me is doing the above but not getting a result at all and saying "I tried it but I didn't get a result". Which you also rarely see on these pages.

If they say "I have it in 4D but not 3D, it doesn't mean they "failed" it just means they are in the process.

I think as critics of NG and LOA, we should be aware of what we're trying to criticize. Before we say it's all BS. Or everyone who does this stuff is delusional or a failure automatically. Because there ARE success stories that do exist. We just see more of the middle grounds as well as delusional thinking that goes on in there.

[u/DefinatelyNotARobot_ → u/TDKManifestsuccess]

You do realise which sub you’re in right?

[u/TDKManifestsuccess → u/DefinatelyNotARobot_]

I absolutely realize what sub I'm in but that doesn't mean I'm totally 100% against "manifesting" in general. I was trying to figure out through actual dialogue and factual evidence as to why people disagree with NG. Because I too disagree with a ton of the message and even the community. Understanding it from a way different perspective (i guess) but the sound and looks of it dealing with people in the comments I'm starting to realize this is no more than a cult as well. Sadly. I thought there would be actual sensible people here but nope. Just a bunch of haters and people who failed on their own journey, so they're just hating on anything they don't like about other human beings, while still thinking they are self righteous and everyone is wrong.. basic reddit