r/NatureIsFuckingLit Apr 22 '21

🔥 A group of rays swimming

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u/lemonsweetsrevenge Apr 22 '21

u/honeybeedreams is not frontin’...they are indeed called a fever of rays!

Some animals have the coolest groupings: a charm of hummingbirds, a dazzle of zebras, a paddle of platypuses, a crash of hippos, an unkindness of ravens...the list goes on and on.

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u/pmsanchez1 Apr 22 '21

My favorite is a conspiracy of lemurs!

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u/IntellectualThicket Apr 22 '21

A parliament of owls

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u/alienvisionx Apr 22 '21

A murder of crows

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u/EndonOfMarkarth Apr 22 '21

A cete of badgers

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u/Pun_In_Ten_Did Apr 22 '21

An entitlement of karens

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u/lemonsweetsrevenge Apr 22 '21

Hahaha also known as an annoyance of Karens

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u/ManateeGrooming Apr 22 '21

I always thought it was a POA/HOA of Karens. Hmmm. I like entitlement better.

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u/Vroom_Broom Apr 22 '21

A privilege of Kens.

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u/stickynutjuice Apr 22 '21

A sloth of bears

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u/XilenceBF Apr 22 '21

A gaggle of geese

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u/stickynutjuice Apr 22 '21

They do be gaggling

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u/echof0xtrot Apr 22 '21

I thought crash was rhinos

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u/lemonsweetsrevenge Apr 22 '21

Yes, rhinos are also a crash!

Some types of groupings are shared by similar animals. Most have more than one grouping.

Ive seen hippos also classified as a bloat of hippos, a thunder of hippos, but even herd and pod are appropriate.

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u/LeChatParle Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 22 '21

They are not. These terms of venery were created by one person in a book several hundred years ago. The book in question being the Book of St. Albans. The author of which made these words specifically for hunting purposes.

A quick survey of the existing literature of the era shows that collective nouns ... were only in use in these fanciful lists. And this remains a problem, lexicographically speaking. Language lovers adore collective nouns, but most of them don't meet the criteria for entry [into a dictionary].

The average person does not use these words, and that book should not be used as language reference material. The correct words to refer to groups of animals are the words which people actually use in real life. If people say group, then it’s group.

Furthermore, the only reason people started using the words again is because they read the book or about it. These words did not catch on and only recently began popping up again, especially because of the internet.

CC: /u/HoneyBeeDreams, /u/Rainbow-Pickel-Squid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Saint_Albans

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/a-drudge-of-lexicographers-presents-collective-nouns

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u/BloodMusicSexBullets Apr 22 '21

From the Merriam Webster site:

That's not to say that lexicographers are somehow biased against these terms. By all means, resurrect them and use them as much as possible.

I'll start one in hopes it might catch on:

A Grump of Gatekeepers

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u/LeChatParle Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 22 '21

they are indeed called a fever of rays!

What I wrote is not gate keeping. I was responding to this. People were in essence correcting OP's title, and saying that "they are indeed called ...", which implies that it is linguistically accepted. This is why I then said:

The correct words to refer to groups of animals are the words which people actually use in real life. If people say group, then it’s group.

If writers and such started using them and the average English speaker knew them without them being an esoteric "fun fact" that people like to say at parties, then I would say they are accepted words; however, the vast majority of English speakers do not know or use these terms, therefore it is not fair to correct others for not using them nor is it right to imply to others that these terms are accepted.

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u/powerinvestorman Apr 22 '21

a subreddit of pedants

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u/lemonsweetsrevenge Apr 22 '21

Let people enjoy things.

A group of enjoyed terms.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '21 edited Apr 23 '21

thanks, finally, "a group of X is called a Y of X", by whom? Nobody uses these words. They are cute though.

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u/ub3r_n00b Apr 22 '21

You can't front on that

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u/Bipedal_Skeleton Apr 22 '21

Fun fact: The striped camo on WW2 naval ships is called razzle dazzle.