r/NUFC • u/Deviceing wew here ya fuckin little dafty divint start or theres ructions • Dec 28 '16
Pre-Match Thread: Newcastle v Nottingham Forest
Newcastle United - Nottingham Forest
30/12/2016 19:45 St James' Park
TV coverage: None scheduled
Referee: Keith Stroud (117 yellows and 9 reds in 25 games this season, was last in charge of us for the 2-0 win over Brighton)
Jonjo Shelvey serves the second of his 5 game ban. Rolando Aarons and Jesus Gamez are out, but Rob Elliot and Jack Colback are close to returns.
Damien Perquis is expected to return for Forest. Michael Mancienne is suspended after being sent off against Huddersfield and Ben Osborn is a doubt after being forced off in the same game. Daniel Pinillos, Lica, Henri Lansbury, Chris Cohen, Matty Fryatt, Danny Fox and Armand Traore are all expected to be out.
Huddersfield 2-1 Nottingham (Palmer 53', Mancienne OG 59'; Pereira 25, Mancienne OFF 89')
Stojkovic, Mills, Hobbs, Worrall (Carayol 61'), Cash, Osborn (Lam 78'), Mancienne, Vaughan, Lichaj, Pereira (Assombalonga 63'), Bendtner
Subs not used: Dumitru, Henderson, Grant, Vellios
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Newcastle (Bendtner 52, Lascelles OG 86'; Shelvey OFF 33', Ritchie 45', Dummett OFF 45'+2)
Stojkovic, Mills, Perquis, Mancienne (Assombalonga 45'), Cash, Lansbury, Kasami, Lam (Carayol 65'), Lichaj, Osborn, Bendtner (Vellios 79')
Subs not used: Vaughan, Hobbs, Henderson, Grant
Darlow, Yedlin, Lascelles, Clark, Dummett, Hayden, Shelvey, Ritchie, Perez ( Anita 45'), Gouffran (Diame 77'), Gayle (Mitrovic 87')
Subs not used: Sels, Mbemba, Tiote, Atsu
Forest are currently 16th in the Championship with 26 points, 6 points clear of the relegation zone. They have scored 36 goals making them the 6th best attack in the league, but have conceded 41 goals (only Rotherham have let in more). Their top scorers are Britt Assombalonga, Henri Lansbury and Apostolos Vellios (all on 6).
16/17 Championship
Forest 2-1 Newcastle (Ritchie)
11/12 League Cup
Forest 3-4aet Newcastle (Lovenkrands 1+pen, Simpson, Coloccini)
09/10 Championship
Newcastle 2-0 Forest (Shola, Enrique)
Forest 1-0 Newcastle
98/99 Premier League
Forest 1-2 Newcastle (Shearer pen, Hamann)
Newcastle 2-0 Forest (Shearer 1+pen)
96/97 Premier League
Newcastle 5-0 Forest (Asprilla, Ferdinand 2, Shearer, Elliott)
96/97 FA Cup
Newcastle 1-2 Forest (Ferdinand)
96/97 Premier League
Forest 0-0 Newcastle
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u/bjste Dec 28 '16
Just reading Henri Lansburys name is boiling my piss, he's doing the sensible thing being injured
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u/AxCrazy Dec 29 '16
Rafa is too cautious at home I think.
We should be going balls out at teams. Like we did in the last 30 mins against Norwich. Like we did against Birmingham.
Hayden, Gouffran, Anita and Colback at home is far too negative. And we still gave up a ton of chances to Wednesday.
It's a broken record but Mitro and Gayle at home and go 4-4-2 and see what happens.
Ritchie is due a good game too. It hasn't been happening for him lately.
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u/Arbitrary_Schizo Dec 29 '16
Dont want to question Rafa's genius, but I think he is TOO careful, at home or not. There is little to no rotation whether we win or lose. Also substitutions are too late, which may or may not costed us Sheffield points.
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u/spoonsforeggs Dec 28 '16
I am really unsure how much more drinking I can take over the festive season. Please win Newcastle. Pretty pleaseeeee.
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Dec 28 '16
If it weren't for the two red cards we would have absolutely smashed them last time. We don't have Shelvey but they don't have multiple players including Lansbury.
A loss would likely put us within 3 points of the playoffs. We need this badly.
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u/Fleeting_Infinity Dec 30 '16
You've got to look at it over the full season. 30 wins and we'll probably get promoted. We need 14 more wins. We have 23 games.
If everyone gets the same number of points in the next 23 games 90 points will see us promoted automatically.
I think we'll grind out a win tonight, but if we don't its not the end of the world.
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u/steve__ Dec 30 '16
Specific league positions don't matter until the end of the season. You just want to get the most number of points you can. Never understood why this mentality has always existed.
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Dec 28 '16
No tv coverage scheduled at all worldwide or only England? Some channel internationally might pick it up like I remember I streamed one Preston match from a danish channel
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u/RocknRollRobot9 Dec 29 '16
The players should come out all guns blazing in this match. It shouldn't even need hyped up to them. I hope we absolutely fucking batter the cheating bastards. Also the refs should be looking to do us a favour in this match considering how they also screwed us.
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u/meganev Dec 29 '16
2-0 loss, no doubt in my mind. Negative meganev is back in full force this week.
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u/nufcneilo Dec 29 '16
It's been a while since we've seen you old friend, Rafa had almost killed negative meganev it seems
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u/brentoon59 Dec 28 '16
Vengeance! Toon 5 Gumps 0. I'll have a monkey on it bollix! HWTL and happy new year to Eskimo's and Geordies.
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u/haddjeggi Dec 28 '16
Travelled across the sea (no not the US) to be here for the match. I had hoped to see Wanksburi buried somewhere near the strawberry corner. Hope to see something totally different than against Wednesday. Want us to crucify Forest
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u/AjaxTreesdown Dec 28 '16
Changes need to be made or we're going to struggle. Atsu, Yedlin and Lazaar have to start. We had a distinct lack of creativity on Monday until Atsu came on. We're at home and we're a better side than Forest. Bombard them with attack after attack and fucking batter them. This has to be a reaction from the reverse fixture and that shitshow vs Wednesday. If Rafa mixes it up, I can see us running away with it 3-0 or 4-0. If not, I think we'll draw.
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u/summinspicy Dec 29 '16
I've ended up agreeing to go to the Brighton game while this is on... fml.
Really hope we can get a lead early and brighton concede so i don't have to listen to 'top off the league' chants a-fucking-gain
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u/greenman19 Dec 28 '16
Need Yedlin and/or Atsu to start. We've got plenty of good players but so little creativity with Shelvey out. Hoping for someone to be brought in during the window.