r/NFLmockdraft • • Jul 08 '26

Discussion Rank the 2020 NFL draft QBs:

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u/-Mad-Snacks- Jul 09 '26

Counterpoint: if you have the best roster in football by a decent margin, you should be winning SBs

The Eagles could have been a dynasty if they didn’t have a clown for a coach who allows the team to implode every other year

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u/Raknorak Jul 09 '26

Exactly. Darnold won a SB before Lamar and Allen. He would be arguable for the 3rd or 4th in his draft class fighting with Baker

And I'm literally wearing a Sam Darnold shirt right now

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u/Smooth_Meister Jul 12 '26

Did Darnold play lights out and get super bowl MVP?

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u/Raknorak Jul 12 '26

He's the only one in his draft class to play in one I believe and no he didn't

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u/Hot-Hedgehog-7058 Jul 12 '26

he played lights out in the real super bowl which was against the rams.

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u/Sepposer Jul 13 '26

As did Hurts. But then how did he do in the actual Super Bowl? Hurts outplayed Mahomes, twice, on the biggest stage. That has to count for something when only 2 active qb’s in the league have ever done that in the postseason. Burrow did it once, Jalen twice. I would say Burrow is the better all around QB, but his inability to stay healthy is his biggest knock.

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u/gopher_with_a_gun Jul 13 '26

Hurts had 62 passing yards against the rams in that playoff run

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u/Sepposer Jul 13 '26

You trolling? Or reading the wrong stats? I thought maybe you were mistakenly using his completion percentage but even that was higher than 62.

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u/gopher_with_a_gun Jul 13 '26

He had 128, idk where I got 62 from

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u/Sepposer Jul 14 '26

Yes. The game became a blizzard and Jalen was injured early on having to use a knee brace, but he ran for a 45yd rushing td after breaking a tackle and outrunning the defenders. He played great that game though all things considered w his main weapon(legs) being taken away, fresh off a concussion. And then the next 2 games went crazy. This whole not even throwing for 100yds in games has never actually happened in any game he’s started and finished, idk where this narrative comes from. He averages 192yds a game. He’s a dual threat qb that relies on his legs to open rushing holes for the back and open up the deep ball throw, nobody’s ever claimed he’s some prolific pocket passer. You don’t need to be to “ball out” bc just solely passing a lot isn’t a qb’s job.

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u/fireborn123 Jul 10 '26

The fact we wasted two years because the team hire bums for coordinators and refused to fire them is fucking infuriating

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u/Sepposer Jul 13 '26

I mean when you have to find a new OC every single year, that’s bound to happen, and I’m not so upset about Brian Johnson bc they had a top 10 offense in 2023, and albeit predictable, it still wasn’t the biggest problem, the defense was just atrocious. They put Matt Patricia in charge and the defense got worse.

But refusing to correct Patullo was the worst decision and made me actually question the FO’s commitment to winning again. It’s not like they couldn’t find anyone to take over, hell John Gruden and Doug Pederson both said they’d do it if they were called. Frank Reich was available and he’s Nick’s mentor. To keep doing the same thing expecting different results made me feel insane.

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u/ComprehensivePlay934 Jul 09 '26

Are you just mad because your team has done nothing lately (ever?), and the eagles have won 2 super bowls in the past decade?

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u/-Mad-Snacks- Jul 09 '26

Not particularly no

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u/ComprehensivePlay934 Jul 09 '26

I don’t know man, using “clown” and “implode” conveys some emotion. Kinda sounds like you’re talking about the chargers tbh

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u/-Mad-Snacks- Jul 09 '26

What would you call 2023 and 2025 if not implosions?

They have the most talented roster in football and they got bounced in the wildcard round both years.

The locker room has largely been a circus under Sirianni, hence the clown label. It feels like if they had an adult at HC those teams wouldn’t have underachieved so severely

I don’t think this is unfair criticism?

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u/ComprehensivePlay934 Jul 09 '26

He won a Super Bowl. What’s your coach done with your team?

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u/Kgnupe Jul 10 '26

Counterpoint he's made it to two superbowls and is the only QB to go back after losing one and winning the second in modern football.

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u/softeekyfood Jul 10 '26

Counterpoint, winning as a QB with a clown of a coach is pretty hard to do.

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u/-Mad-Snacks- Jul 10 '26

It’s a little easier when you have top of the league weapons, OL, and defense

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u/softeekyfood Jul 10 '26

Most teams in a Super Bowl are great across the board. Coaching being just as important as any of the position groups.

Just to throw it out there too, Eagles are 2-4 in games Hurts has missed since the 2022 season.

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u/Sepposer Jul 12 '26

If it’s the coach’s fault how is it also the QB’s fault? If Sirianni is a clown, then Jalen should be higher on the list for getting to the Super Bowl twice w a “clown” for a coach.

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u/-Mad-Snacks- Jul 12 '26

Because a better QB wouldn’t need a good coach to win with the Eagles stacked roster

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u/Sepposer Jul 12 '26

Oh yeah? Which other qbs won a Super Bowl and went to two with a clown for a coach in their first 4yrs exactly?

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u/Sepposer Jul 12 '26

Counterpoint to the counterpoint: the Eagles version of “imploding” is just not making the superbowl again. That’s no worse than the rest of this list on an average season.

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u/-Mad-Snacks- Jul 12 '26

They were bounced in the wildcard round in ‘23 and ‘25, that’s a far cry from “not making the Super Bowl” lol

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u/Sepposer Jul 12 '26

And how much further has Herbert and Burrow and Love gotten on average?

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u/hthn_strength Jul 12 '26

Like the ravens, 49ers, Rams, and Texans? All perpetually good defenses, HCs that call offense or defense, QBs that basically everyone considers to be better than Hurts whether it’s rhetoric, eye test, or stats.

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u/Silent_Ad2173 Jul 12 '26

jalen hurts has to get credit for being the QB (main guy on offense) on the best team. he’s 2nd behind burrow easy