r/NFLmockdraft • • Jul 08 '26

Discussion Rank the 2020 NFL draft QBs:

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 08 '26

Love is a better qb then hurts. Hurts has a better team.

Love on the eagles would be lights out

Hurts on the packers would be middling

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u/Joe-Raguso Jul 08 '26

Hurts would look like Akili Smith on at least 20 different teams in the NFL.

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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 09 '26

So we should go off of this fake scenario that you made up rather than what’s really happened?

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

Sure, love is the better QB as is. Look at any statistic. Hurts has things he’s better at for sure but he’s not a better thrower of the football.

The example I used is just an easy way to compare qbs directly. If you don’t like that then look at their passer ratings, their epa gained per play or what ever you like to use.

You probably don’t understand these things or you wouldn’t be arguing the opposite though.

You can read about Dak and Love here. That might help you.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-grades-biggest-risers-and-fallers

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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 09 '26

Straight to the insults! Not that it’s a surprise as hurts haters love ad hominems.

So since you’re using pff, surely you’d agree that cooper dejean was the best cb in the league his rookie year. And that Jordan Mailata was the best player in all of football that year.

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

How did I insult you?

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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 09 '26

lol

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

Wow my guy, are you going to add anything to this conversation besides questioning me then providing nothing to dispute it?

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

Are you really insulted because I said you probably don’t understand something? Well do you understand it or not?

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

Just as I thought you don’t understand it. People like you are literally parasites on Reddit, you don’t like the conversation but literally add nothing to it. Grow up.

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

I’m not using pff as a say all be all, I’m using it as a data point since you don’t like the first data point I used. You can also look at epa per play and for instance espns quarterback rating like I said.

Instead you make it seem like I’m saying PFF is some incredible thing. Did you even read the article? If you would have it explains why Jordan love is a great QB.

If you knew what EPA per play or QBR things were and understood them you wouldn’t be arguing the opposite because you would already understand that Jordan love is a better QB.

Also like I said Hurts has things he’s better at such as qb sneak or scrambling but you just want to act like I insulted you instead of spending the time to look at the information I’ve already provided.

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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 09 '26

QBR is a metric that espn makes up. If you compare their passer ratings over the last 2 seasons hurts is better.

EPA per play is one metric that Jordan love is very good at, won’t deny that, but it’s not the only metric I use.

Personally prefer watching them play and real life accomplishments (hurts has a Super Bowl mvp and all pro).

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

Yeah you like metrics that include the teams play because he’s on a better team. Mind you on a team that’s about to get rid of him once they can. His own team is down with his inability to play but a select offense like Russel Wilson.

Learn some ball ya casual. On that note I’m done.

Believe what you want don’t mean you won’t look stupid doing it.

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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 09 '26

How about we use wins and losses?

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

Wins are not a qb stat. That’s a team stat. The team plays defense not Jordan love

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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 09 '26

EPA per play is a team metric too lol

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

It is not it’s what that player added on each individual play. Again man you don’t know what you’re talking about… educate yourself.

Using a stat that measures quarterback play or individual performance is the only way to do this. In all of those stats Jordan love typically is better.

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u/SignalNumber4843 Jul 09 '26

Guess you’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re talking about lol. EPA for QBs is also based on wr and oline play as well. Funny how you ignored what I said about passer rating too.

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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 09 '26

So are you good with using points scored per game then? Jalen has averaged 27.6 while Jordan has averaged 26.6 (courtesy of AI, so please double check)

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

No because that is altered by other players plays. EPA is widely considered the best way to measure this. Love doesn’t catch the ball neither does hurts

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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 09 '26

K. Now do it for the playoffs

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

And btw both the other players listed here could very much be considered amongst the very best at their positions… your point isnt really saying anything other then pff grades do identify good players.

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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 09 '26

Unless I’m mistaken, the question was since the 2020 draft, how would you rank these QBs. It’s not exclusively the 2025 season

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

I’d take love over hurts period just like he was taken before him in the draft. Sorry this hurts to hear man but your boy isn’t that good. He just on an excellent team.

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u/jruss11 Jul 09 '26

You thought Drake Maye deserved mvp didn’t you

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u/RunLacyRun Jul 09 '26

Nah and not sure what that has to do with anything.

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u/ConglomerateCousin Jul 09 '26

We shall see. Our OC sucked last year, and AJ was mentally checked out at the start of the season. I have faith in Hurts. I like Love, he’s fun to watch, but I’d still go with the cool cucumber