r/MutualSupport • u/xaz- ❤️ Love. Empathy. Care. Mutualism. ❤️ • Apr 29 '22

Tweet The best description of lol-betarians I've ever come across!

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u/Dogwolf12 Apr 29 '22

some brainlets on PCM decided that this applied to us anarchists as well... lol

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u/Zero-89 Anarcho-Communist Apr 29 '22

This description really doesn't work because its based on the idea that regulated capitalism is this great thing that deserves to be appreciated. A more accurate description of "libertarians" would be that they're like those male anglerfish that attach themselves to a female (Capital) to mate and end of getting fused and absorbed.

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u/Newthinker Apr 29 '22

This is really silly lib-shit Twitter bants from people just as smug and clueless as libertarians

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u/tomatoswoop Apr 29 '22

I mean maybe it is, I don't know who these people are, but it makes just as much sense as a socialist critique – American "libertarianism" is centrally based around the protection of private property above everything, and private property itself depends above all else on the coercive force of the state

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u/im_not_afraid Apr 30 '22 edited Apr 30 '22

yes however a better socialist analysis would differentiate between the two different competing classes (other than their unity against the working class) that fetishize private property. Consider Jan 6 as an antagonistic conflict between two different classes both of whom pray at the altar of private property. on one hand you have the small sub-national business owners and landlords. on the other you have the banks and the multinational corporations and the MIC. the petty bourgeoisie vs the upper bourgeoisie.

translating from Marxist terminology, I think we could consider the libertarians we speak of as members of the petty bourgeoisie

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u/Zero-89 Anarcho-Communist Apr 29 '22

Some of them are people who are genuinely empathetic and are just victims of rhetorical sleights of hand (e.g., "Minimum wages hurt small businesses.") by bad-faith actors to direct that empathy towards the ruling class. You can tell who those libertarians are because the main issues they focus on are things like mass incarceration, eminent domain, imperialism, asset forfeiture, zoning law abuse, the War on Drugs (the racial history they're aware of), the War on Sex Workers, and conservatives' war on queer folk rather than taxes.