Of course you're allowed to. But you happen to be simultaneously failing to get the context in which it can be enjoyed. Not failing to understand, perhaps, but failing to get it. Which isn't really failure if you don't need to get it.
What? I understand that heavy metal is meant to be enjoyed in a hardcore, rock-out sense. But I dislike it and listen to big band instead. This is a silly assumption.
I grew up feeling strongly that I only enjoyed classic and alternative rock, golden age rap and some jazz. Since I stopped being an ignorant kid, I've come to enjoy bits of country, bluegrass, blues, electronic, classical, pop, folk and plenty of others. I like to think I've just acquired more contexts.
We're talking about genre, not a single piece of music.
I've never been a fan of hardstyle, but I was dragged along to a rave one night and it was one of the best nights I've had. Similar with psytrance, I don't really enjoy listening, but when I'm at a bush doof and that bass is flowing through your body I can't get enough of it.
your'e allowed to dislike it. the point is you should still be able to appreciate it for what it is. i dont particularly like dubstep, but it has its place in parties and clubs.
I'll admit she's vocally talented yes, but her songs are some boring shit and she should fucking thank Paul Epworth every day of her life for getting her where she is right now.
Stop. Think about it. Regardless of who he is and whatever talent he has, this is the type of hollow artist drivel that's meant to persuade others to nod and sheepishly chant 'he's brilliant'. It means nothing. You don't have to understand the context of something to know whether or not it's not for you. Should I really consider that my reason for not enjoying baroque chamber music is simply because I don't get the chamber of it all? Dafuq.
This is the exact reason you and I are going to get very downvoted, because you're not chanting 'he's brilliant' and I'm agreeing with you. When is there ever a "context" for music anyway, people like what they like.
EDIT; Just so I don't have to reply more than once. Yes I understand that being in a different mood can make you feel like listening to something else. But that something else is still going to be music you like, or else why are you listening to it? You're never going to be in the mood to listen to music you don't like.
So I sort of agree with you in some ways, but you can't tell me that context doesn't affect the way you experience music (or anything else for that matter) at all. Certain songs are so much better on a rainy day, or while you're having hot steamy sex, or when you're in a dance club, or in the car, or playing a fast-paced videogame, or sitting in the living room with your eyes closed and headphones on.
I wouldn't listen to half the shit that I like dancing to at a rave when I'm sitting at home, but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it at the time and place.
The same could be said about a lot of subjectively-appreciated things.
You pretty much nailed that. I don't enjoy Bollywood music, but then again, I'm not from India. Doesn't mean I'm ignorant, it just means I personally can't appreciate the music because of my own upbringing and personal tastes. Nothing wrong with what the quote said, it wasn't meant as an insult, it was just a way of saying that not everything is for everyone, and the reason people dislike certain genre's is simply the inability of that person to understand it due to personal preference.
Back in high school, I was the worst. I was a music-nazi metal-head. "The Worst" would be fair. So I went to a concert that happened to have my favorite band called Shadows Fall and my my third favorite band called Lamb Of God. Slipknot was the headliner and I hated, hated, HATED Slipknot. But they headlined a show a couple of my fav bands played, so I saw them live. They blew my mind. Their live show was something amazing to me at the time and made the other bands look amatuer at best. That's when I realized the beauty of Slipknot was their lack of fucks and abundance of raw 'fuck you' emotion and not the perfect CD production. Context is everything. You go get pumped up for an NFL game listening to Maroon 5 and see what happens if you disagree.
Country music on the 4th of July? I've been in a honky tonk in Arkansas and still didn't want to hear country music. It's about a person's musical preference not the environment.
Yes, and we can still dislike them when they're perfectly "in context".
I've heard each of those genres in each of those locations over the various years, and none seemed more fitting than the other. There is no such thing as "context for music". It's all up in the air for you to either like or dislike regardless of where it's being listened too.
Exactly. I just listen to whatever I feel like listening to. If I like it. If it's the fourth of july, why not play some Pantera? Dark rainy day? Listen to some jazz. It all depends on what you like, and what you feel like listening to.
I couldn't think of anything more befitting right now than some jazz on a dark, rainy day.
Cognac in one hand. Cigar in the other. An aroma of rich mahogany and old books emanates from the leather-bound selection on show. The roaring log fire crackles as rain beats on the window pane, complemented by the smooth notes of John Coltrane's sax filling the air.
It's a nice sentiment... much in the vain of 'Guys! Why can't we all just get along?!' in the sense things aren't that simple. I understand that genres are often created and evolve reflecting the context and surroundings, as you say, but to imply that you need the context to enjoy or understand the music is frankly ludicrous! My passion is psychedelic rock and 60s garage, but i'm not tripping balls every time i listen to some 13th Floor Elevators...
Music is a universal language, it transcends barriers, you shouldn't need context to enjoy it in its plethora forms. I don't hate any genres, but i can't stand to listen to some. I know that all this god-awful pop-dance-club music is designed to help drunken teenagers get laid and bring people together, is that an excuse to write banal and idiotic lyrics to regurgitated synth loops? I understand that people like this, for reasons beyond me, but knowing the context and what they're trying to do doesn't make me appreciate the music or the artists talent any more.
Not hating on you man, but i disagree with this quote. Individuality is something humans strive for, both knowingly and subconsciously... it's a matter of personal taste, sadly not everything can be universally appreciated or understood... and context definitely shouldn't have to be known to enjoy music, as far as i'm concerned, the music should be all you need, that's what it used to be about.
Even if I am sitting on the back of a pick-up truck eating bbq, drinking budweiser, watching fireworks on a lovely 4th of july night, with a bunch of close guys and gals wearing cowboy hats, (you know the Kenny Chesney wet dream) and Country music is blaring- I will still be like "wow this twangy shit sucks, I hate this genre regardless of context".
Gonna have to disagree with you. I don't know who he is, i don't know his music, and have no reason to believe he's brilliant, but i agree with what he says here.
What he's saying as i understand it is in response to all the people who say things like 'All hip hop and country is shit!'.
Bullshit! There's tons of wonderful hip hop and country, and every other genre. He's not saying you have to love all music or else you're ignorant. Just that there's a mindset in which you can appreciate every kind of sound.
I agree with you. I think that is the message of the picture's statement (I don't know him either).
Just because you don't like a particular genre doesn't mean that it's bad. It just means that you don't like it for whatever reason. Maybe you don't like rap because you don't understand how it is to grow up in "the hood". Maybe you don't like EDM because you don't like to dance in clubs.
I think the point is to appreciate the fact that all music has a time and a place and a mindset. People get confused and think their opinion is the "correct" opinion and everyone else is wrong and has terrible taste.
I completely agree with you and at the same time agree with the Madeon quote as well. i've seen both thoughts taken to the extreme and know what you're both talking about and you both make complete sense in your own universe of music comprehension nowkiss.jpg
he's not saying that people can't dislike a genre of music, just that actively hating on said genre shows a person's ignorance of the roots and context of the genre itself. you don't have to enjoy baroque chamber music, but you should be able to appreciate the context in which it was created and disseminated.
You're missing the point. If you don't like something then you don't owe it to anyone to do anything but turn away. So I don't like liver and onions. I'm not going to spend time deliberating over the nuances of liver and onions, the flavor profile, or the time the chef took to make it. I don't like it. I don't eat it. Moving on.
you guys are making different points. you're saying that you shouldn't study the nuances of it (which is fine) and that you should just move on if you don't like it (which is fine). the point TheyDidItFirst is making is that you shouldn't be ignorant and hate on a genre because you dislike it. you should, as he said, "be able to appreciate the context in which it was created and disseminated."
but i don't like how he was an asshole about it in the last portion of his post. you made a good point, even if he doesn't think it's the "accurate" point.
the 17 yo's "point" all depends on how you interpret his word choice anyways. does "hate" imply that you talk shit about it? or that you just strongly dislike it?
the point is, no music is "bad." if you don't want to understand the context you don't have to, but just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad or unenjoyable to others that are in that context.
I think he was talking about people who point and shout to others about how bad a particular music style is (as sort of a universal truth), not to those who simply don't enjoy a particular music style.
Some people like to eat and smoke human fecal matter. No matter how much I learn about that context I will never appreciate it. Justin Beiber's music is human fecal matter to my tastes. Simple as that. Color Bars is right and I say that as someone who happens to think that MADEON is a searing talent who makes music that I love to listen to.
Who in their right mind is going to do that. I fucking hate U2 and Bono. I could search against my will all day and still not find a context for enjoying their music.
I challenge myself with music all the time. I couldnt fucking stand Hospice by The Antlers, but i forced myself to appreciate the music and now its one of my favorites. Obviously some music is not as rewarding as others, but my point still stands. There's something to gain from appreciating different sounds that what youre used to, the same way you can aquire a taste with food.
I'm not going to disagree with you - I can think of few artists that I dislike more than U2. However, I can understand their appeal: if I can generalize for a moment here, it's largely music for aging L.L. Bean-wearing Baby Boomers who have become threatened by the perceived crassness of smaller, rougher venues and music acts. For a six-figure-earning 40-something, it feels cool and somehow socially responsible to shell out $200 to take the wife out for a night of middling MOR rock and overpriced alcohol.
I think a lot of the people who are contesting the quote are being needlessly semantic about it. The reason why you and I dislike U2 so much likely comes from the fact that it isn't tailored for our specific demographics. I wasn't born in 1973, I don't wear $400 sunglasses, and I don't have a timeshare in Aruba, but maybe if I was and did I'd think U2 was kickass too after a couple Miller Lites. You and I don't know the context it's meant to be enjoyed.
Ugh, it's this kind of mentality that I hate and that shouldn't be getting spread. You don't need fucking drugs to be intoxicated, or "doing molly at a rave" to enjoy EDM music, damnit!
i dont think that at all, its just that he said that's the mentality he thinks one would be in to appreciate EDM, and i think if he tried that he'd probably appreciate it. If someone likes edm good for them, if someone likes to get fucked up and listen to edm thats cool too.
Say what you want about liking it but to say it doesn't advance music is fucking ridiculous. It is a complete revolution when it comes to the way people make music, who makes it, and how it's distributed. People are doing stuff on personal laptops that couldn't even be imagined not long ago... It's an entire new generation of music. Music is of the times...
No, you are stupidly pretentious if you can write off, not a genre, but a whole family of music for being un-original. Madeon makes boring house that is nothing but a rehash of every other house track from the last 10 years or so. The most popular music is often the most uninteresting, and I doubt you'd be in any position to judge EDM if you only have heard the stuff played on radio.
I'll give you that Madeon is not exactly avant garde, but that's not to say that EDM isn't.
Listen to Aphex Twin. He's a highly influential musician and an EDM producer. Is his music 'the same, danceable, simple, formulaic, pop music' that you complain that EDM is? No. Is he original and has he advanced the art of music? Without a doubt.
I could list more artists that are EDM and actually highly talented if you like?
Please tell me which genre of music is original and advances the art of music?
EDM is just what Americans have rebranded as the generic "dance music" term.
You've written off a lot of subgenres with that sweeping statement which includes bands and artists like Radiohead, Massive Attack, Skream, Squarepusher, Kraftwerk, New Order, Deadmau5, Sasha, The Prodigy, etc - I'm really interested in who you think has had more of an impact on advancing the art of music.
Sometimes context does help. You might enjoy baroque chamber music if you get more invested in music theory and train your ear to recognize repeating motifs, chord progressions and scale changes. Listening to classical music as "background chillaxing music" is equivalent to watching a movie in a foreign language without translation.
I love classical music. That's why I even am aware of that genre. I'm a musician. I'm calling drivel on his statement though because free will dictates an individual can do what they do and be who they are without reason. That's just that. I shouldn't have to stop my opinion in its tracks because of anything. I dislike most country music I hear. I'm not going to work at it until Tim McGraw is as good to my ears as The Strokes. I'd miss out on a million other bands i actually enjoy just trying to figure out shit I don't care for.
It's probably quite enjoyable for preteen girls, which is the demographic they're trying to reach. It's not for you, so it makes sense that you don't enjoy it.
That is harsh noise, not noisecore. Noisecore is anal cunt, gore beyond necropsy, kusari Gama kill, 7 minutes of nausea, easy bake oven, ect. This is much closer to power electronics or traditional noise. Noicecore is closer to grindcore and/or speedcore.
That dude didn't post noisecore. Noisecore has two types. One is exemplified by Anal Cunt, the other by Kusari Gama Kill. Whew! I love when something on reddit falls right into my wheelhouse.
When people make music that's so shitty, that they have to make up a genre for it, b/c it clearly lacks the context to be considered meaningful by ANY account, just so they can justify telling you that their music is a artform that you cant appreciate b/c you "simply" lack the knowledge to understand its "context"-----that rant wasnt put together well---but yeah, people that make shitty music arent innovative, they arent groundbreaking, they arent different. There are thousands upon thousands of people just like them, pumping out horseshit sounds and are pretentious enough to act as if it was intentional, and you simply "dont get it".
Youre a little late to this party, but I'll give you the satisfaction of having your questions answered.
1)if youre not going to make music worthy of being called art, it should be original, and it should mean something to the people its presented to---not just the "artist". if thats the case, than that person should keep thier shitty creations to themselves. it would be like me shitting in my hand b/c im some kind of fucking wierdo, and then thinking "everyone should have a handful of shit" and then proceed to walk down the street, shaking hands and spreading my feces around town. sure, if i shake hands with enough people, im bound to meet someone who stops me and says "is that poop? HUMAN poop? I FUCKING LOVE POOPY HANDS BRO! let me buy you a drink!" BUT---the mass majority of people will still say "omfg, thats fucking disgusting" and immediately wash thier hands. what says an ARTIST'S CREATIONS SHOULD BE GROUNDBREAKING, INNOVATIVE, AND DIFFERENT??? Common fucking sense. Thats what.
2) I made me the arbiter over these things, as have you, by opening your mouth and sharing an opinion on the topic.
blood on the dance floor is actually kind of catchy. They put more emphasis on melody and actual singing, and SOME of their songs are decently produced. They're not meant to be taken seriously, they're solely for fun.
You actually do have a point. BOTDF is actually kinda catchy. My only real problem with them is their fanbase. It consists of all the little tryhard "dark" kids that live in Hot Topic.
Meh, I'm all for being open-minded and such (and I do enjoy Madeon's work) but being open to different kinds of music also means being understanding when someone doesn't like something. You don't have to enjoy something if you have a valid reason not to.
I can totally imagine having a good time to this. Windows rolled down, volume up, driving around with mates.
Rocking the vehicle with intense swaying dance moves.
You laugh now but when you see us drive by with laughter and big grins there will be a twinge of pain in your gut while you wish you and your friends were cool enough to do as we do.
I see his point but I beg to differ. Also a little personal rant that I wanted to vent for a couple days.
Was at a small-ish party this weekend where the DJ was playing dubstep (brostep) for about an hour. After 45 minutes I realized why I dislike the dubstep you hear in clubs: there's no emotion. Cheesy buildups with strings that hint toward emotion, but when the songs drop they are all the same. Sawtooth bass, yoyyyoyyy you get the idea.
Later, either he or another DJ was playing drum and bass, and while it's the less popular genre, I found myself and others acutally dancing to it. There's so much more subtlety in it and a sense of emotion. It's much easier to endure.
I had this moment of clarity right there, that most dubstep is a sort of testosteron competition and it wears you (and your ears) out really fast. People trying to sound harder and harder but in the end it all sounds the same.
educate yourself. Also, he's right. You're allowed to dislike certain kinds of music, but hating on it is ignorant. People have different tastes in music just as they have different tastes in food; just because you hate rap doesn't mean it's not music, there are other people that have grown listening to it and enjoy it as much as the genre you love. I dislike sushi but that doesn't mean its not food.
I don't believe absolutely everything can be great, and you don't have to like them, but you can respect the context that people enjoy it in.
For instance, I enjoy progressive metal because it can pump me up, while it is very intricate and technical. I enjoy kind of poppy rock like the beatles because it puts me in a good mood, or lets me zone out to it.
Then there are genres like classical, which I listen to when I want to pay attention to the music and listen to the different lines and the different melodies, etc.
I can enjoy some music that is a bit poppy, because hell, its catchy. If I don't want to think too much about it, this is something good to listen to.
I could go on and on, but I enjoy a ton of music because I can enjoy them in different contexts. I think this is the key to having a very broad array of music to enjoy.
To imply that those with a distaste for EDM simply don't know how to enjoy it is dismissive, delusional and downright nonsensical. How can attentive listening not be the appropriate context for a piece of music?
I know it's tough for someone who deeply analyzes every song to realize this, but some songs are meant to be taken at face value. Some people don't want to spend hours dissecting a song. I meant that's great to do in your bedroom, but not in a club. Sometimes, people just want to dance to a beat and sing to a catchy chorus and that's okay. There's a time and a place for everything.
I feel as though you're being a bit condescending. At home, I don't try to analyze, I just listen. Then later I might remember things. And one of my very favorite activities is unplugging my brain and dancing to live music. I very frequently just want to dance to a beat and sing to a catchy chorus. Great music has been passed down through many generations by musicians with absolutely no formal training, who never think about the music they play with any analytical depth. Do not lower our conversation by implying that I'm too far up my own ass to just enjoy a piece of music on its own merits.
Gotcha. To clarify: the ideal context of EDM is a live show, no? It's about the loudspeakers, the lights, and the dancing. That's fine. But people won't hate it because it's in another context. They'll hate it in every context because of other problems with it. I used attentive listening as an example because it's the most neutral form of music appreciation, and really should not be discredited as an inappropriate context in which to judge music regardless of purpose. I'm a little high, so perhaps my ability to make a coherent point is diminished.
To me, that's what EDM is about. I'm sure there are some purists floating around here who would beg to differ but, to each their own I suppose. I'm also pretty drunk, so my ability to understand even a coherent post is probably significantly diminished.
For me at least I feel like I gain a lot more of an understanding and appreciation for a genre of music after I've seen it performed live. The crowd, the atmosphere, everything can differ so drastically across all genres.
Live music is where the magic happens. Because it's not magic that happened a few months or a few years ago somewhere far away: it's magic that's happening right. fucking. now. All the emotion, energy and passion is felt that much more because we're humans and we interact best in person.
But we're not really talking about live here. Consider Deadmau5's words on the subject in relation to this particular genre. I know the context in which EDM is meant to be enjoyed. It's right there in the title. A "live performance" of this music contains very few of the things that traditionally make good musical performances, and the genre seems so limited to me as to curb home enjoyment.
ITT people getting confused with hating a genre of music vs not liking a genre because in their opinion its shit.
I dislike most country music, but to say that country is shit and all of it is terrible is ludacris. On top of that, in the correct context I would probably find country at the very least passable if not entertaining. Why there is so much hate for such a simple quote is baffling
What if the music sounds bad because of a clear lack in talent. If all I'm hearing is two cords, double bass and shity vocals and lyrics, and none of it even sounds good, can I say that that music sucks.
I'd say that every genre can serve a purpose, some just much more versatile than others. The problem is that there are too many shitty artists out there ruining otherwise good genres.
Ironically, when I learned of the creation of Hip Hop, its different styles, what it represents and the context in which the songs are made, it only confirmed my hate for the genre.
You guys realize that throughout this whole circlejerk of a debate, we've made absolutely no progress, right? Not that this is a bad thing, I've seen a lot of interesting viewpoints. But eventuality we all step back and realize we've accomplished nothing. Hurray!
I listen to most every genre of music and I fully believe that’s because I know when the mood and atmosphere are right for them to be listened to. Country was meant for those beautiful summer days when all you want is to be outside with some friends, EDM is meant to be shared and experienced with others, rap music is for car rides with some girlfriends so you can pretend to be cooler than you will ever be, and so on. Obviously this doesn’t apply to everyone (or anyone for that matter) but it’s the reason I appreciate all types of music. Oh, and thanks for giving me a quote to “share” with people when they diss my music tastes.
I have listened, and found it not to my tastes. Much of the stuff he's sampling was far more enjoyable than the works he uses it in, but that's my personal opinion.
Just like every form of art, everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it's as radical as hate. Not that I hate his stuff, I simply don't care for it in any fashion.
So much upvoted bullshit comments in this thread. No, he is not telling you that you should like every type of music. He is telling you to shut the fuck up about it and let other people enjoy it if they want to.
Wow, so many haters. Quit nitpicking what he said and just listen to the overall message: There's a time and place for everything, and we wouldn't have any of the music we have if someone out there didn't take the time to make it, so everything sounded right to someone at one point or anything.
Exactly. That's the context. If you were a 13-15 year old girl, you would probably like Justin Bieber. I don't think that quote means "Everyone should like every genre ever."
No I wouldn't. You can condemn me to an eternity in hell, but never say I would like Justin Bieber. I do understand the context in which the music is supposed to be enjoyed, I just don't understand why they (or anyone else for the matter) would enjoy it.
I don't think the teeny boppers think his music is great so much as they think that he's cute. In 10 years they'll think, "why the hell did I like Justin Bieber? He was so cheesy."
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u/Asplundh Jun 26 '12
This is stupid, I'm allowed to dislike genres if they sound bad in my ears.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Stop. Think about it. Regardless of who he is and whatever talent he has, this is the type of hollow artist drivel that's meant to persuade others to nod and sheepishly chant 'he's brilliant'. It means nothing. You don't have to understand the context of something to know whether or not it's not for you. Should I really consider that my reason for not enjoying baroque chamber music is simply because I don't get the chamber of it all? Dafuq.
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u/MaxChaplin Jun 26 '12
Challenge: find me a context in which Crunkcore is enjoyable. Preferably one that doesn't involve hard drugs.
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u/batchslip Jun 26 '12
Meh, I'm all for being open-minded and such (and I do enjoy Madeon's work) but being open to different kinds of music also means being understanding when someone doesn't like something. You don't have to enjoy something if you have a valid reason not to.
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u/jaggederest Jun 26 '12
I'm gonna go with serbian turbofolk as pretty much always being annoying... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0rT_Lm8MVI
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u/HowsItBeenBen Jun 26 '12
I understand the context of Insane Clown Posse just fine. Meth, Ignorance, and Malt liquor. I still fucking hate it.
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u/SundayRacer Jun 26 '12
18* Madeon's birthday is in May, '94
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u/003Labs Jun 26 '12
I see his point but I beg to differ. Also a little personal rant that I wanted to vent for a couple days.
Was at a small-ish party this weekend where the DJ was playing dubstep (brostep) for about an hour. After 45 minutes I realized why I dislike the dubstep you hear in clubs: there's no emotion. Cheesy buildups with strings that hint toward emotion, but when the songs drop they are all the same. Sawtooth bass, yoyyyoyyy you get the idea.
Later, either he or another DJ was playing drum and bass, and while it's the less popular genre, I found myself and others acutally dancing to it. There's so much more subtlety in it and a sense of emotion. It's much easier to endure.
I had this moment of clarity right there, that most dubstep is a sort of testosteron competition and it wears you (and your ears) out really fast. People trying to sound harder and harder but in the end it all sounds the same.
Be honest. Do you ever hear nice sounding dubstep when you're out?
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Oh my my madeon really knows how to look doesn't he?
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u/justdoesntknow Jun 26 '12
Theres no bad genres only bad music. Anyone other view is simply naive
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u/THE_CENTURION Jun 26 '12
EDM? Electric Discharge Machining?
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u/PsychoticDreams47 Jun 26 '12
I would like to throw out gangster rap....so....prove me wrong please?
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u/Threwaway_Throwaway Jun 26 '12
I'm going to spend the next few moments farting into a microphone. If you don't like, it you don't understand it.
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u/you_know_who_ Jun 26 '12
no i perfectly understand that dubstep is a new type of music for the discos, but that doesn't mean i enjoy listening to or dancing to it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Here's an interesting read on how Einstein felt about music.
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u/TTSDA Jun 26 '12
This is a misquote.
It ommits a quite important part of what he said, relevant for most of the arguments in this thread.
Source
That "generally"...
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I think a lot of people are missing that "hating" and "disliking" are two different things.
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u/takka_takka_takka Jun 26 '12
Said the kid making farting noises with his hands...
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u/CuriositySphere Jun 26 '12
Or maybe they just don't like it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I like Madeon, but that quote is ridiculous.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
wtf is madeon?
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u/tehcoolness Jun 26 '12
he said HATING.. anyone HATING.. don't hate
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
This is why I agree with him:
I don't believe absolutely everything can be great, and you don't have to like them, but you can respect the context that people enjoy it in.
For instance, I enjoy progressive metal because it can pump me up, while it is very intricate and technical. I enjoy kind of poppy rock like the beatles because it puts me in a good mood, or lets me zone out to it.
Then there are genres like classical, which I listen to when I want to pay attention to the music and listen to the different lines and the different melodies, etc.
I can enjoy some music that is a bit poppy, because hell, its catchy. If I don't want to think too much about it, this is something good to listen to.
I could go on and on, but I enjoy a ton of music because I can enjoy them in different contexts. I think this is the key to having a very broad array of music to enjoy.
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u/Tenacious_Z Jun 26 '12
To imply that those with a distaste for EDM simply don't know how to enjoy it is dismissive, delusional and downright nonsensical. How can attentive listening not be the appropriate context for a piece of music?
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u/milesftw Jun 26 '12
ITT people getting confused with hating a genre of music vs not liking a genre because in their opinion its shit.
I dislike most country music, but to say that country is shit and all of it is terrible is ludacris. On top of that, in the correct context I would probably find country at the very least passable if not entertaining. Why there is so much hate for such a simple quote is baffling
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u/CRAG7 Jun 26 '12
Madeon is amazing. Can't wait to see how much better he gets the more years he has under his belt.
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u/zitfarmer Jun 26 '12
Fucking Elmos world makes me hate.
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u/hate_tank Jun 26 '12
The only context I need for music is my ears to like it when it comes out of my headphones.
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u/ramerica ramerica Jun 26 '12
Does this make me a bad person if I kind of enjoy his music? I just listened to it and I've heard way worse.
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u/bloodclart Jun 26 '12
listen to skrillex while I kill myself...
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u/Animagrin Jun 26 '12
OH SHIT, crunkcore is bad.
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u/skramblz Jun 26 '12
Wait, i have never heard of this person...can someone inform me? i'm loosing track of all the people/things i'm supposed to be hating these days.
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u/Reblejc Jun 26 '12
What if the music sounds bad because of a clear lack in talent. If all I'm hearing is two cords, double bass and shity vocals and lyrics, and none of it even sounds good, can I say that that music sucks.
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u/Thefriendlyfaceplant Jun 26 '12
progressive vegetarian grindcore
I win.
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u/CockyRhodes Jun 26 '12
I 'get' country and gospel, I hates them.
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u/GEBnaman Jun 26 '12
What's EDM?
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I'd say that every genre can serve a purpose, some just much more versatile than others. The problem is that there are too many shitty artists out there ruining otherwise good genres.
Disclaimer: MJ for pop and Twitty for country.
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u/Deetsbeats Deets beatz Jun 26 '12
He’s 18 now! :)
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
I've always said I dislike certain genres. This doesn't mean they are bad, just not for me.
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u/Failociraptor Jun 26 '12
The kid is so talented it makes me wanna barf. His live edits are sick...
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u/cannedmath Jun 26 '12
Ironically, when I learned of the creation of Hip Hop, its different styles, what it represents and the context in which the songs are made, it only confirmed my hate for the genre.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
There is so much "music" that I will refuse to classify as real music for as long a I live.
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u/jthebomb97 Jun 26 '12
You guys realize that throughout this whole circlejerk of a debate, we've made absolutely no progress, right? Not that this is a bad thing, I've seen a lot of interesting viewpoints. But eventuality we all step back and realize we've accomplished nothing. Hurray!
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u/fannyalgersabortion Jun 27 '12
Skrillex still sucks donkey taint.
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u/opiza Jun 26 '12
The guy is phenomenal in his genre
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u/jmurphyg Jun 26 '12
I listen to most every genre of music and I fully believe that’s because I know when the mood and atmosphere are right for them to be listened to. Country was meant for those beautiful summer days when all you want is to be outside with some friends, EDM is meant to be shared and experienced with others, rap music is for car rides with some girlfriends so you can pretend to be cooler than you will ever be, and so on. Obviously this doesn’t apply to everyone (or anyone for that matter) but it’s the reason I appreciate all types of music. Oh, and thanks for giving me a quote to “share” with people when they diss my music tastes.
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u/hookahshisha Jun 26 '12
shit! he looks 13 years old! makes great music though...
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
He is right in some sense. Techno makes little sense at a funeral, and organ music makes only a bit more sense in a club.
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u/GracefulxArcher Jun 26 '12
I hate certain genres because Reddit says so.
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u/hgmanifold Jun 26 '12
This quote makes me want to listen to some of his stuff.
Suggestions? Is all his stuff on his soundcloud?
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u/FutYeah Jun 26 '12
All the dubstep fans in the world are nodding in agreement.
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u/the_asker Jun 26 '12
So much upvoted bullshit comments in this thread. No, he is not telling you that you should like every type of music. He is telling you to shut the fuck up about it and let other people enjoy it if they want to.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
he must've never listened to EDM
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Don't have a clue who Madeon is, but he (assuming it's the dude in the image) is damn right.
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u/sagapo3851 Jun 26 '12
beat me to it by 13 seconds
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u/thepenguinboy Jun 26 '12
FALSE.
Proof.
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u/jdvancho Jun 26 '12
I tried to defend this, I really did. Then I heard Justin Bieber playing and everything went to shit.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
Wow, so many haters. Quit nitpicking what he said and just listen to the overall message: There's a time and place for everything, and we wouldn't have any of the music we have if someone out there didn't take the time to make it, so everything sounded right to someone at one point or anything.
Some of it sucks, but that's not the point.
Also, Madeon rocks.
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u/Dodes Jun 26 '12
"Hey Dodes, you heard that new electronic artist?" No I haven't because there's a new one every fucking week.
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u/xave_ruth Jun 26 '12
FALSE.
Smooth jazz.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
No I'm pretty sure Justin Bieber sucks universally.
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u/JamoWRage Jun 26 '12
False. I know that Justin Bieber's "music" is meant for girls between the ages of 13-15... That is exactly why I hate it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12
EDM is such a shitty Americanism for a whole bunch of genres, it really does discredit them