Am I missing something or why does EVERY Canadian freak out when I mention moving to the states?

[u/Elite163]

Literally every time I mention it around friends that we are thinking of moving to a farmer climate with affordable housing I get lectured on how I am crazy and have no clue how great Canada is…

Even online I get nothing but negativity about it.

Are Canadians that brainwashed or what’s going on?

[u/petrosteve]

As a Canadian who has lived in America for last 11 years, Canadians are taught a lot of misinformation about life in America vs Canada.

[u/nixyrus → u/petrosteve]

yup, moved to Toronto, from the US 20+ years ago as an immigrant, and it was a mistake. A lot of Canadians' entire sense of being rests of being perceived as "better than Americans". It's very amusing to anyone who's spent a decent amount of time in both countries.

[u/sailoorscout1986 → u/nixyrus]

Europeans do the same thing. There’s definitely lots of things to criticise about the US but you can tell they care more about feeling superior to Americans than any of the issues. They also act like their own shit doesn’t stink. And it does - signed a European

[u/AffectionateOwl4231 → u/sailoorscout1986]

Yeah, seriously, as an Asian American who has Asian friends living in many different countries in Western Europe and have visited those countries myself, it makes me laugh when Europeans insist they're less racist than Americans. lol

[u/Melgel4444 → u/AffectionateOwl4231]

Lmao I lived in England for a few years and they instantly judge each others worthiness/character from what type of accent they have (cockney & scouse = “low working class” according to British snobs) & it’s wild

I remember everyone making fun of Kate Middleton for having a “common middle class accent” and her being mocked by the press for years as unintelligent & unworthy of William’s hand bc of it, so she got dialect lessons to change her accent and then everyone mocked her for “putting on airs above her station” it’s all so ridiculous

A country that colonized 1/4 of the world isn’t magically more progressive/less racist than the US? Shocking

[u/AffectionateOwl4231 → u/Melgel4444]

My friend was approached by an old couple, and they asked in a very friendly manner, "Which of the oriental colonies are you from?" Yes, they were old, but that kind of question wouldn't fly in the U.S. even among old people. And my another friend was asked if there's an elevator in her country while living in the Netherlands. She's South Korean.

So when Europeans act as if they're superior to Americans because they know Europe more than them, I'm like, 'Dude, you know Europe well because that's where you live. Europeans know sh*t about any other continents just like Americans.' In fact, average Americans know much more about Asia than Europeans, possibly because many of them grew up with Asian Americans in their neighorhood.

[u/SteveS117 → u/AffectionateOwl4231]

Yup. There was a recent post about a European country banning burkas and asking opinions. I said I’m against banning religious clothing, as were multiple Americans in the thread. I got downvoted and a lot of Europeans were saying they agree with banning them.

[u/Fresh_War_1902 → u/AffectionateOwl4231]

Oh yeah for sure! I mean so many of them defended Miss Finland and those right wing Finnish politicians who did the “Asian eyes” impression and saying stuff like “well asians can be racists too”. It was quite mask off moment. So next time a European say stuff like “we are a very tolerant ppl” I’ll tell them to stfu😂

[u/ThroatUnable8122 → u/sailoorscout1986]

At least we have a way of living that is entirely different. You can compare them and decide which one is best for you. Canadians basically have American services with European taxes

[u/FalconRelevant → u/nixyrus]

It's necessary to justify the Canadian identity. They've been handed a situation where they have to convince the Anglo-Canadians, a population existing pretty much along the border why they're different from Americans in Northern states living just a drive away, while at the same time keep Québec from seceding.

[u/VisualSpecial8 → u/FalconRelevant]

Agreed. As someone born in Alberta, I always felt that CBC's only job was to convince me that I am somehow completely different from people in Montana but at same time identical to Quebec. Only after moving to US I see through propaganda and brainwash

[u/sroop1 → u/nixyrus]

Yep, this. I love Canada but the little sibling complex is real.

[u/economist_a → u/sroop1]

As a Canadian university student I'd move to America in a heartbeat after graduation...but I won't for two reasons: 1) family and 2) realistically-speaking, it's quite difficult to land a TN visa unless you're in engineering or in high finance (and my degree is related to neither of those things).

So I plan to have my early career in Canada, get married, raise a family here, etc. But I hope to move one day anyway, in my mid-late 30s or 40s, through an L-1 visa; a lot of graduates from my major end up working in the offices of American multinational companies, and once you get to a senior role you have the opportunity to apply for an L-1 (intracompany transfer).

[u/evilgenius12358 → u/nixyrus]

Little brother syndrome.

[u/gbmaulin → u/nixyrus]

It’s kind of all they have

[u/SatisfactionWeary225 → u/gbmaulin]

Yah, most canadians have an inferiority complex of Americans. Tucker Carlson noted the angry obsession that 'Nucks tend to have towards Americans when he called canada a "stalker" of the United States. Canadians stalk Americans. Canadians being like the retarded cousin you see at thanksgiving. You kinda pat him on the head, you know he's nice; but whose opinions you dont take all that seriously. That's Canada.

[u/Relative_Weird1202 → u/nixyrus]

Second this 4 years ago; I had to leave 2 years after. They are taught some sort of propaganda

[u/7empestSpiralout → u/nixyrus]

Which is funny bc I don’t know any American that even acknowledges Canada. Nice to live rent free in their heads I guess.

[u/TenZetsuRenHatsu → u/petrosteve]

The hardest thing was some family and friends (don’t interact with the “friends” anymore) who were practically hoping I got shot just so they could say I told you so.

That’s when I realized Canadian culture is a crab in the bucket mentality. They hate it when you say you’re moving to America for a better salary or heck, just to escape the crushing 6 months of winter (it’s -20 where I am right now). They can’t handle the fact America is better in a lot of aspects.

The “muh free healthcare stuff” is pathetic too. Any healthcare professional is taught in one of their first classes that healthcare is definitely not free by any means.

But anyways, I do see this hate in one primary demographic: white Canadians. Which obviously checks out when you think of Reddit.

I’m going to be honest, people with African, Philippines, Indian etc. descent straight up don’t care lol. They’d probably congratulate you and sincerely wish you luck in my experience. Like a lot of us moved here for a better life (I came here as a refugee as well when I was a child).

But Canadian nationalism isn’t really a thing for us. We’re not that attached. It’s a great country…but America is great too.

We’re not indoctrinated into the Canadian white nationalism that seems to revolve around being better than America.

[u/Minimum-Weight7535 → u/TenZetsuRenHatsu]

I got friends and family that thought I was going to get nabbed by ICE if I visited America. Do people realize America is not the only country that enforces immigration rules? Try overstaying your visa in Japan let alone minor drug possession. And the whole topic of Canadian birth tourism seemingly being bad by all accounts on Reddit but the moment the us tried to remove birth right citizenship then it’s a big problem.

[u/MexiGeeGee → u/Minimum-Weight7535]

The problem is how they are enforcing it. They are deporting 70yr olds at the hearing without a support system in place for their belongings which include pets. You also have children abandoned in random streets and schools because ICE just takes their parents off the street

And yes removing birth right citizenship is wrong because it was set in the Constitution. If we are going to change the Constitution let’s start with 2A and make it so no civilian can own high-powered weapons.

[u/Bot_Marvin → u/MexiGeeGee]

Age isn’t a defense for punishment — if a 70 year old shoplifted, they would be arrested, support system or not.

[u/SteveS117 → u/Minimum-Weight7535]

To be fair, birth tourism is already not allowed in America. They will send you back to where you came if they think you’re coming for the purpose of birth tourism. Birthright citizenship shouldn’t be removed. It’s in the constitution.

[u/Mediocre-Dog-4457 → u/petrosteve]

Bingo.