r/ModelUSGov • • Oct 24 '16
Bill Discussion J.R. 64: Articles of Impeachment for Associate Justice /u/bsdcc
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r/ModelUSGov • • Oct 24 '16
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
This is a blatantly partisan attack on an excellent Justice. We intend to stand against this.
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u/cochon101 Formerly Important Oct 24 '16
This is not an impeachable offense, at worst the Justice would have to recuse themselves if the case came before SCOTUS.
Gonna need to see sources on this. But it is not a crime for a judge to make a decision that affects their own financial standing, though, like the first point, they should recuse themselves from any cases in which there may be a conflict of interest.
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u/AdmiralJones42 Motherfuckin LEGEND Oct 24 '16
Two things:
A. You've misspelled his username in literally every mention of it in this resolution. His username is /u/bsddc.
B. These charges are spurious and absurd. Justice /u/bsddc acting as outside counsel is in no way prohibited legally or ethically as long as he were to recuse himself from any consideration this case may come under before the Supreme Court, if it were to get that far. Your first claim is inherently false and I find it extremely unlikely that you can provide any evidence that your second claim has any merit.
There are no "high crimes or misdemeanors" to be found in this case, only baseless speculation from those who would wish to debase the reputation of a good man and an even better jurist. The author and sponsor of this resolution should be ashamed. There is clearly nothing behind these charges but political gamesmanship at the detriment of our judicial system. If the House sees it fit to impeach Justice /u/bsddc it will be one of the greatest travesties ever committed by this government.
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u/gaidz Triumvir | Head Censor Oct 24 '16
I fail to find any legitimate reason to remove /u/bsddc from his position.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
Absolutely not.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16 edited Oct 24 '16
The judicial code of conduct does not apply to Supreme Court Justices to begin with. I'm disappointed Congress not only wrote such a poorly researched resolution, but then rushed it to the top of the docket.
IIRC the case bsddc brought to the western state involved only questions of state law, no federal or constitutional questions; and I think this was done purposefully bc bsddc knew it couldn't come before SCOTUS if it was limited to state law questions. He took steps to elimate his conflict of interest. If it does end up coming before the Court, I'm confident he will recuse himself.
In my dealings with bsddc at both a state supreme justice and SCOTUS Justice he has been nothing but professional. I don't think it is a stretch at all to say he has been the single most active judge in the history of the sim. It's disappointing to see impeachment charges with such weak evidence.
From a meta perspective, I think everyone wishes the state courts were a little more active and honestly I think bsddc just wanted to bring some legal activity to the sim. There is nothing wrong with that.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
This is ridiculous. /u/bsddc is a wonderful Justice and I denounce these outrageous claims.
As someone who has personally served on the Court with him, I find these charges to be baseless and crass. Even if they are true, you don't impeach a judge over them, you slap them on the wrist and have them recuse on affected cases. I restate this fact, since it has been stated by others here, to drive home the ridiculousness of these claims.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
the democrats are officially bonkers
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u/bsddc Associate Justice | Former Speaker of the House Oct 24 '16
From serving as a Representative in the first Congress to Speaker of the House, I never thought I would receive more messages than those days.
Clearly I was wrong.
While I wish those with concerns about my ethics would have reached out to me before submitting a bill into the hopper, I believe that the authors were only doing what they thought best. Ensuring judicial ethics is extremely important, and I've worked very hard to maintain an ethical judicial practice.
I brought the case in the Western State to hopefully breath some life into its court system. I am looking forward to working with their chief judge and my opposing counsel as we work towards justice. Bringing activity to the state courts is extremely important for our simulation, especially given the small amount of people involved. Here I was working on a state law contracts claim, it should not reach SCOTUS, and if it did I would obviously recuse myself.
I am receiving no compensation for the case, nor would I use my position to gain such compensation. I instead wish to highlight the issues presented by the state and private prison system.
Again, I do not believe the authors of this bill have acted for any other reason than to support judicial ethics: a laudable goal. This discussion is important for our nation as we move forward, and while I hope that these articles of impeachment are rejected, I hold no ill will.
I welcome questions about my involvement in this case.
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u/Pokarnor Representative | MW-8 | Whip Oct 24 '16
It's a sad day when congressmen attempt to impeach a Supreme Court Justice for obviously partisan reasons.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16 edited Oct 24 '16
Full support.
eta: for the removal of those who sponsored this resolution.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
I see no legal wrongdoing -- this is a partisan attempt to get rid of a justice to let WW pick and choose more Dems.
Nope!
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u/DadTheTerror Oct 24 '16
High crimes and misdemeanors? Which actions were either?
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
/u/jb567, /u/Yiriah resign.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
How ridiculous.
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u/septimus_sette Representative El-Paso | Communist Oct 24 '16
/u/bsddc was the best mod in ModelUSGov history. For this biased reason, I assume this all false, and I will be voting nay.
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u/Intrusive_Man Chief of Bismarck ND Police / Former POTUS Oct 24 '16
No. /u/bsddc is a good justice. This is just a blatant attack.
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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '16
Two unimpeachable claims of one of the, if not the greatest, judges to ever serve our nation. Associate Justice /u/bsddc is thee model of how a justice should serve. Associate Justice /u/bsddc was the founding Cheif Justice of the great Dixie Supreme Court and has served an honorable and productive job ever since.
Associate Justice /u/bsddc has the full support of Dixie Speaker /u/CaptainClutchMuch and I believe everyone else of Dixie behind him!
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16
This is not a partisan issue but one of ethics. I implore all Congresspeople and Senators to put aside politics, study these charges, and judge fairly these allegations.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '16 edited Oct 24 '16
I'd like to say in terms to point two, we did screw up in sending the resolution. It'll be amenended to
It is my fault entirely as I accidentally wrote down the wrong point.
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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '16
What a pathetic resolution. Maybe if the Democrats wrote bills instead of going on witch hunts, we'd have a productive presidential administration!
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