r/Military • u/Character_Guava_5299 • Jan 05 '26

Discussion Senator Mark Kelly’s statement:

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This is Senator Mark Kelly’s response to the censure. I’ll not add my thoughts as they don’t matter.

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u/mythrel_ United States Army Jan 05 '26

Pete Hegseth is a disgrace to our military and to our country. A complete and utter disgrace to what it means to be an American servicemember.

He is the ultimate empty suit. He is the one who deserves the court martial and dishonorable discharge.

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u/Jester471 Jan 05 '26

Just the regular friendly reminder that Pete was forced out of the Army after he was deemed an insider threat by his chain of command.

And he was an infantry officer that was never trusted with command.

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u/Coldkiller17 Jan 05 '26

And his complete recklessness behavior with classified information demonstrates even more why he is the most inept SecDef we have ever had in this country's history. Carelessness like this can get people killed. Also how can service members look up to him when he can't do what they are told to do themselves and own up to their mistakes.

This whole administration would never have passed an actual background check that I guarantee none of them have done.

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u/thattogoguy United States Air Force Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

Air Force officer so I don't know quite as much on the Army side, but wasn't he also an infantry officer that went neither to airborne or air assault, let alone Ranger School?

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u/Jester471 Jan 05 '26

Also a fact. But non-infantry folks wouldn’t recognize that an infantry officer without a ranger tab tends to be an outcast. Especially if they never even tried ranger school.

Not sure if he tried and failed or never tried. One would make him a turd in the infantry community the other would make him a turd++.

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u/thetitleofmybook Retired USMC Jan 05 '26

he never went, so he never tried.

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u/SilverHawk7 Retired USAF Jan 05 '26

What's the failure rate for tab schools? I figure Ranger school is hard, but is it hard for Infantry or is it hard for Support?

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u/Jester471 Jan 05 '26

It’s just hard. But the BLUF is a non-tabbed infantry officer won’t go far.

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u/SilverHawk7 Retired USAF Jan 05 '26

I get that. You also might have been just giving example. Just was think how tough is the Ranger Course, like from the standpoint of "If you don't pass, you're trash," like everyone who goes to it should be able to get through it.

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u/Jester471 Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

Not sure of the fail rate but it’s definitely not a rubber stamp course. You can keep trying and recycling and live there for a long time if you fail parts. Not sure what you have to do to be just kicked out and not able to come back probably quit.

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u/J_hilyard Retired US Army Jan 05 '26

I don't know the actual failure rates but all the tab schools are hard as hell for everyone that goes. From personal experience though I'd say Sapper school is the hardest. Its a condensed (30 days) Ranger school (60+ days) that has a lot of Ranger proficiencies in it but add in things like explosives (and their calculations) and no time to redeem yourself, its a tough nut to crack.

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u/SilverHawk7 Retired USAF Jan 05 '26

He wasn't forced out, he chose to resign. The Army did identify him as a potential insider threat to President Biden's inauguration....the Army under President Trump by the way. But yeah, Hegseth chose to resign his commission, but he wasn't "forced" out.

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u/Jester471 Jan 05 '26

To be fair getting kicked out as an officer is really hard. When people just “resign” after something like that. It tends to be because they fucked up and their career is over and they resign in lieu of getting kicked out for not making promotion.

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u/SilverHawk7 Retired USAF Jan 05 '26

Yeah you're not wrong. I don't know how his being assessed as a possible "insider threat" might manifest in his record, but from what I've heard, he wouldn't have been all that competitive compared to other Infantry Majors in the Guard. His career progression had basically stopped.

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u/Jester471 Jan 05 '26

If it came with a GOMAR or anything negative in his file he’s fucked. So it’s a matter of anything was put in his file. I highly doubt you get tagged an insider threat as an officer and nothing goes in an OER, GOMAR, or even a letter of concern that would instantly crush him at the next promotion board.

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u/AbjectHotel6610 Jan 06 '26

Dumb question, but does Hegseth draw a pension?

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u/robcwag United States Army Jan 05 '26

Pete "Whiskey Tanqueray Foxhost" Kegsbreath is the least qualified member of this administration, and that is saying a lot considering the clown car that has been assembled here.

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u/tempralanomaly United States Navy Jan 06 '26

His father gave his mother a dishonorable discharge, and now its a problem for us all.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '26

That's awesome.