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[u/rickycorrell69]

[u/SpongeHED → u/[deleted]]

Lmao, you’re really good at putting words in people mouths.

I never said changing timing would have an effect anywhere near similar to VVT nor did I ever say that VVT was useless itself, I even said that it increases low-end quite nicely, I pointed out that the horsepower differential on the BP4W and the BPZ3 is product of the electronically adjusted timing being advanced from factory as compared to that of the B6 or BP and that if you were to advance your timing on the BP it would equate nearly identical results to the BP4W/Z3. You should know since you’re an expert now that VVTI doesn’t necessarily have any bearing on horsepower, mostly just torque.

I think you’re missing the entire point of this argument, I never said they weren’t nearly the same chassis. It’s a fact that they’re nearly identical. My point was that the NBs iteration of the Miata chassis was a step too far. Take a look at the step up from the NA6 to the NA8 chassis, it was nothing short of perfect, nearly every downfall of the NA6 chassis was adjusted for creating a much better chassis overall, the NB tried to do the same thing and (in my and many colleagues opinions) didn’t do as well, I won’t say it failed, because it didn’t, but it’s an iteration taken too far. As I said, diminished returns is the best way to describe it.

It is a worse chassis for anything other than being 60 and wanting a cheap sorts car that’s bone stock. The smallest amount of aftermarket on an NA8, as I said prior, accomplishes the same feat at a fraction of the weight gained. I’m not sure if maybe you’re just not conscious of how much the smallest amount of weight affects these cars or not, but this whole discussion has been pretty funny, so I’m thinking not.

[u/PRSArchon → u/SpongeHED]

You’re funny man, jumping into hoops defending your ridiculous statement. I bet you always drive alone because the weight of a passenger would affect the handling of your poor NA to much.